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04 January 2013, 22:38
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#81
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"Moron" is actually derogatory to those so afflicted, "arse" may be more correct.
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04 January 2013, 22:41
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#82
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Originally Posted by mister p
The RNLI should not have posted their pictures. But should have gone to investigate the call. Lesson learned.
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But they did investigate, to find all was okay. It was again the person who reported what they seen as an emergency, but it's not really their fault for thinking their saving lives, even if it is false alarm, more education on how to recognise emergency situations would help.
Makes me wonder how many false/mistaken alarms the Mountain rescue recieve.
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04 January 2013, 22:49
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#83
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Originally Posted by Dragonhawk ficht
But they did investigate, to find all was okay. It was again the person who reported what they seen as an emergency, but it's not really their fault for thinking their saving lives, even if it is false alarm, more education on how to recognise emergency situations would help.
Makes me wonder how many false/mistaken alarms the Mountain rescue recieve.
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Yes I agree a bit...if they found all was ok why did they post their pics?.......but that's the lot of emergency services, you respond to everything and are HOPEFULLY glad that all is actually ok when you get there.
A bit like parenthood I guess, you react above all else to a whimper from your child and are relieved when they're actually ok. You don't whack them for worrying you. You're relieved. Better be mistaken by the signal than ignore a real cry.
It's our job to react to the "Cry Wolf" thing, and it has to be done over and over........that's it really, no?
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04 January 2013, 23:03
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#84
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Originally Posted by mister p
Yes I agree a bit...if they found all was ok why did they post their pics?.......but that's the lot of emergency services, you respond to everything and are HOPEFULLY glad that all is actually ok when you get there.
A bit like parenthood I guess, you react above all else to a whimper from your child and are relieved when they're actually ok. You don't whack them for worrying you. You're relieved. Better be mistaken by the signal than ignore a real cry.
It's our job to react to the "Cry Wolf" thing, and it has to be done over and over........that's it really, no?
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That's exactly right, It's in our nature to want to help, well 99.5% of us. ![thumbs up](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/thumbs.gif)
As for taking the pics, well we must remember they where missing a few safety essentials, and maybe needed making an example of.
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04 January 2013, 23:30
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Alls well that ends well. Rather than chastise these people they need educating. Although I agree some people will never learn. In this case there only crime seems to be they were ill equipped ,which can mean the difference between life and death and also endangering those sent to your aid. How many times have we all witnessed the vessel with no life jackets,VHF,flares,adequate lines etc.We witnessed a 15 foot speed boat sink at this years Bournemouth Airshow. It took 5 minutes to sink from alarm being raised adults and kids on board no life jackets no VHF. Very lucky people. RNLI inshore and offshore boats saved them just in time. End of Rant.
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05 January 2013, 04:05
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Thanks for the entertainment guys, Feliz Anos
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05 January 2013, 13:05
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Originally Posted by Low Flyer
Alls well that ends well. Rather than chastise these people they need educating. Although I agree some people will never learn. In this case there only crime seems to be they were ill equipped ,which can mean the difference between life and death and also endangering those sent to your aid. How many times have we all witnessed the vessel with no life jackets,VHF,flares,adequate lines etc.We witnessed a 15 foot speed boat sink at this years Bournemouth Airshow. It took 5 minutes to sink from alarm being raised adults and kids on board no life jackets no VHF. Very lucky people. RNLI inshore and offshore boats saved them just in time. End of Rant.
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We were also watching the airshow and observed the incident ( it was also all over 16 ). Although we were only a short distance away ( 8m rib with a very competent crew - including two ex-lifeboat crews/cox) with the speedy response from the local RNLI we chose to not interfere unless requested and potentially inpeed the ongoing rescue attempt - don't think they were in 'too' much trouble ( not forgetting the other hundreds of craft bobbing near by! ). It does make you think when you whitness poor seamanship and how people can so easily put there's and other lives at risk. Also whilst watching the air-show there was a ski close to us, one adult and three young kids sharing the craft, a simple capsize , a dose of panic and ............................
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05 January 2013, 14:06
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Think a lot of false alarms & the like can be put down to sheer ignorance by the caller especially perhaps by a holiday maker or tourist who may think a boats in trouble eg reports of a boat that's ashore on rocks only for the lifeboat crew to attend then be presented by a couple who have gone bird watching and landed quite safely on a rocky part of the beach . No distress shown just minding there own business ,
Always remember diving in a local river years ago to survey an old weir,
Whilst getting kitted up we had a few elderly ramblers/ walking party watching us from an onlooking bridge then they went on their way , about 5 mins later the landlord from the nearby pub comes running over with a rope ( have you got him out yet ) who ! There's a woman from the walking party that's just run in the pub dialled 999 and reported that there's someone fallen & is struggling in the water .
To say we had a van parked up nearby we were using full face commercial diving equipment along with umbilical air hose . 10 mins later a copper pulls up on a police motor bike (have you got him out yet ) fire service are on there way too . The copper then says looks like its a false alarm ! We just had report from a woman saying that think we should know there's someone in the river ?
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05 January 2013, 14:20
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Thanks Lee nice to think we looked competent. We heard the squawk on 16 and popped over to help out. As you say all was under control fairly quickly. And they were at least grateful for help.
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05 January 2013, 16:05
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I remember a tv advertising campaign from about 30 years ago encouraging people to call 999 & ask for the CG if they saw someone in trouble out at sea. It had a cartoon couple,
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05 January 2013, 16:11
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
I remember a tv advertising campaign from about 30 years ago encouraging people to call 999 & ask for the CG if they saw someone in trouble out at sea. It had a cartoon couple,
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05 January 2013, 16:19
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![lol](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif) Brilliant! remember it well. "looks like he's jumping in for a swim"
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05 January 2013, 17:49
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Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
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Sadly though it's about the level of intelligence you can expect from a typical beach goer.
Witness the muppets who let their kids play round a raised outboard then get shirty when you move them off in case they harpoon themselves on the skeg an inch from their head.
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05 January 2013, 18:11
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Sadly though it's about the level of intelligence you can expect from a typical beach goer.
Witness the muppets who let their kids play round a raised outboard then get shirty when you move them off in case they harpoon themselves on the skeg an inch from their head.
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Sudland Bay
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05 January 2013, 18:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whisper
Sudland Bay ![bang](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/banghead.gif)
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Yup...
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