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Old 13 November 2009, 13:33   #1
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Force 11 for some areas tonight - us again as usual. Been waiting for a chance to get the boat out onto my new trailer - be next year at this rate!!!

Had another bow eye break last week - shows hopw bad the harbour is.....
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Force 11 for some areas tonight - us again as usual. Been waiting for a chance to get the boat out onto my new trailer - be next year at this rate!!!

Had another bow eye break last week - shows hopw bad the harbour is.....
Are your moorings chain then rope, you've done well to break a bow eye!
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That's bad luck Codders. Do you have a spring setup on the mooring? IF you have maybe get some shock dampeners on the lines.
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Had another bow eye break last week - shows hopw bad the harbour is.....
Plenty of space in the West Dock, Cods.
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Are your moorings chain then rope, you've done well to break a bow eye!
Nope just rope - and it's the 2nd one thats gone!!!
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Been waiting for a chance to get the boat out onto my new trailer - be next year at this rate!!!
surely with your incredible hull its capable of that
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do you think the problem is really with the harbour or the hardware?
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surely with your incredible hull its capable of that
do you think the problem is really with the harbour or the hardware?

The harbour - in Swansea marina you could tie your boat up with some string!!!

The trouble is there aren't many places you can attach ropes to on a RIB. The A frame and the bow eye are about it.

Just got back from there now - never seen anything like it - didn't risk walking the pontoons - the motion was incredible. As usual we had the highest windspeeds along with the Scillies.
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Well it seems you have 3 choices then:

(1) change harbour so that inferrior hardware is adequate
(2) change the hardware so its "up to the job", and probably add some beefy cleets/samson post etc
(3) cross your fingers that exposed harbour + weak fittings don't combine with bad weather at the wrong time.
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The harbour - in Swansea marina you could tie your boat up with some string!!!
Is it on a mooring or actually tied next to the pontoon?
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Alderney

Alderney looks a little rough today, wonder what Malthouse is up to?

http://www.alderneyquay.info/?page_id=57

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Is it on a mooring or actually tied next to the pontoon?
Tied to a pontoon. The other part of the harbour Dai mentioned is much more sheltered but I would be a bit worried as it is almost invisiible and the risk of theft must be a lot higher.

Polwart mentions extra cleats etc - where do you attach them on a RIB? There is no way on this Earth I am attaching ropes to glued on handles with the swell we get.

As soon as there is a break in the weather and the tides are right I am getting my boat out for the winter.

When the tides out the harbour is as safe as houses - it's as soon as the water gets over the sill the fun starts!!!
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Polwart mentions extra cleats etc - where do you attach them on a RIB? There is no way on this Earth I am attaching ropes to glued on handles with the swell we get.
No if you are breaking your bow ring then glued on cleats are definitely not the way to go. If you are happy tying off to your a-frame then the back would seem to be covered OK and its the front you need more strong points at? I assume you also don't want the ropes rubbing over the tubes. A Sampson post sounds like the way to go. I guess the other option would be to fit a cleat (or very strong rail?) maybe to the front of the console if its quite far forward assuming you are happy with how Jason fitted the console to the boat?
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Gusting 63knts at Hurst !! Average just under 50 ! I'm staying in................
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How strong is your console? Could it take a cleat? If it will all you need is a cleat on the transom, line going aft, bow line off your bow going forward and then set up a spring line to the centre cleat.
Put some of these in the line too http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rubber-Mooring...item4a9ac61410

If you get the spring right your RIB will only move up and down with the pontoon.
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Force 11 for some areas tonight - us again as usual. Been waiting for a chance to get the boat out onto my new trailer - be next year at this rate!!!

Had another bow eye break last week - shows hopw bad the harbour is.....
wind and petrol price codders,your not the only one with lots of wind 97 mph at the needles according to the bbc
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Which bit of the D ring is breaking? Somethings amiss if they keep breaking?
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If your D-ring is breaking it must have in inherent design flaw. I assume the D ring proper is not actually breaking but being wrenched from the stem as the hull itself is not sufficiently reinforced where the D-ring is located?
If you need more holding power, in lieu of a samson post why not fit two D rings similar to those used on the SR 4-point bridle arrangement, instead of the D ring being either side of the bows inside the boat have them either side of the bows on the outside of the boat. Essentially a D ring on a stainless steel backing plate for example 5" or 6" square through bolted (Sikaflexed etc) through the hull with a similar backing plate in way of a large "washer" inside the boat.
You can then also use them to secure your boat to your trailer & in a bridle arrangement if you ever need to tow your boat.
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If Codders wants a beefier D ring, might I suggest his local Stainless fabricactors? I bet they could knock up just the job.
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