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Old 01 April 2016, 04:55   #41
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Before starting the “Guppy in the Goil” threat..perhaps it is worth adding a quick summery of my first impressions. Do keep in my ..its only my opinion.. and is based on my own particular requirements .. and experience with small boats.

Portability.

I debated with myself before the purchase.. on whether to get the smallest of the F-Rib range (275) ..or the next size up (330)..which would understandably handle bigger seas. There is not much difference in price..but the weight concerned me a little at 36kg(275) against 43kg(330). I am now very happy I went for the smaller size. I can lift it and carry it very short distances myself. I personally would have struggled with the 43kg boat. Being able to move the boat myself was a number one priority. Both boats would fit in my car no problem. They do take up slightly more space than a rolled up inflatable of similar size.. but that is off set by the size of outboard required for reasonable performance. I have plenty room in the small size too...but I am alone.

Outboard Performance.

I was delighted to be able to plane at 11 MPH with my Mariner 3.3HP . The outboard is a two stroke and 10kg.. so can be lifted with one hand.. and stored in a small space in the car. I did 20 miles trip using 4 litres of fuel.

I couldn’t get the F-Rib to plane at the start of the day.. simply because I carry a fair bit of gear with me.. it happily went 6 Mph on half throttle of the Mariner 3.3. That will be my normal operating speed..as I don’t want to thrash my engine.

I then unloaded the boat ..so only myself..anchor.. fuel ..and outboard were left in it. It planed every easily at WOT and came out the hole in around 10-15 meters.. I was sitting forward..but there was no need for precise balance. I didn’t try trimming the outboard ..so performance may improve slightly with tweaking.

Sea Handling.

It was a calm day.. although the wind freshened in the afternoon. The highest waves were only around a foot high..and as is the manner of waves in a sea loch..close together..some waves were just showing a tip of white on their crest. In a following sea..the boat didn’t notice the waves. Beam on..I was impressed with the stability of the boat..but it is a wide boat for her size (1.6m) so not a surprise. Into the waves..it nodded gently..it certainly didn’t slam like the slat floor did. I will report on performance in rougher conditions when I encounter them.

I was very impressed by its handling and turning capability.. at displacement speed .. shove the tiller to 90 degrees and the boat spins on it axis ..no side slide whatsoever. I have not had a small light boat do this before...so am delighted with that aspect. At speed..if you call 11 mph speed..it felt that it was on rails ..no flinching or swerving..no cavitation ..and no transom splash back.

It appears to be a very dry boat..well.. except when you discover its rear compartment half full of water. Yup..that happened..because I accidentally knocked the rear bung out.. it definitely needs a modification there ..but no big deal.

I guess that is all I can say at the moment..until I start pushing her to her limits. Im happy with 3.3hp power for my use..but will possibly look towards a 6hp next season. I think a 10hp may be a bit much for my normal usage.. if I want speed..I have my Quicksilver 4.3m and 25hp engine.

Would I recommend the F-Rib ?.. so far.. I am delighted..and would have no hesitation recommending them.. no boat is perfect..but this puppy is 150% perfect for my coastal inshore and sea loch use...when Im on my own
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Old 01 April 2016, 05:01   #42
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Excellent report of this first trial. Very efficient hull shape to plane with a 3.3hp which it obviously is from the wake shape. I've had small GRP boats with a similar hull profile and it was always great to get so much out of any given outboard size.

A few years back I had the slightly bigger Brother of the Bonwitco 320 shown below... that 320 will plane at 12-13mph with a 4hp one up.

I forget what is the HP of the next size up outboard you already own?

>>>at displacement speed .. shove the tiller to 90 degrees and the boat spins on it axis ..no side slide whatsoever. I have not had a small light boat do this before...

Yes that's an aspect of a well "fluted" hard hull I miss with flatter floor SIBs.
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Old 01 April 2016, 05:10   #43
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Hi Fenlander.. next up is a 4hp fourstroke..Tohatsu..but its a long shaft ..it no use ..then after that its the 25hp for the quicksilver..I doubt I will try that

I will watch the local adds over the summer..Im in no rush..around a 5hp two stroke will be perfect for me..and I have seen them go for around £300 up here for a good second hand one
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Old 01 April 2016, 06:00   #44
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very impressive 11 mph for a 3.3 hp as you say a 5-6 hp will be ideal.

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Hi Fenlander..yup..I will miss my hardshell ..but then..thats why I think of the F-Rib as a boat in a box.. it handles like a hardshell.

Hi Jeff..there is no doubt..it is an impressive package

I should add that all the DIY accessories worked very well with no issues ..although when I look at the photos I took yesterday .. I felt something was missing ?



It is now sorted ...



Guess I will have to go another adventure to get updated photos
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Jeff..I have a confession to make..

A few years back ..I won the craftsman of the year award...on one of the biggest forums for RC aeroplanes on the internet. I have spent a lifetime making things ..I designed my plans from small drawings..made all my own parts ..and painted them to resemble the real deal as best I could. So others may not find DIY things as easy as I do ?

Example of one of my flying models work..I don’t do flying now ..but I still do museum pieces...occasionally




Hammering up bits of wood and stitching material is a walk in the park for me..and yup..I can vacuum form canopies as well... a plastic bow box would be do able too. Metal work.. etching.. you name it .. its just a case of knowing techniques on how to do it.

The Guppy was easy to do..design the logo and choose the font on the computer..print out on paper at the size I wanted. Attach to the old seago carrier bag blue material with prit stic.. cut round the outline with sharp scissors .. glue to the spray dodger with hypalon glue ..then when dry..finally stitch it round the edges. Jobs a done deal

Did I ever tell you I played in a band too ? Boats is easy peasey !
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Old 01 April 2016, 12:05   #48
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Hi Gurnard, I have a 4hp Suzuki 2 stroke (which was almost like new and came on a 2.8m slatted floor sib...which I won on ebay for £235 for both items early last year) and a 5hp Mercury 4 stroke. If you get around Rothesay sometime soon...look me up and you are welcome to try either/both on the back of The Guppy, give you an idea of how they perform before you ultimately buy one.
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Many thanks for the offer Paul..and I will probably take you up on that.

Once i get a bit more used to the Guppy in rougher water..I could easily launch at Colintraive and coast hop round to your bit..Or more likely..take the Guppy as a passenger in the Quicksilver next time Im circumnavigating the island. I will need to check on some more wild camp spots before the big Scottish day.

Thanks again...appreciated
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>>>few years back ..I won the craftsman of the year award...on one of the biggest forums for RC aeroplanes... designed my plans from small drawings..made all my own parts... Hammering up bits of wood and stitching material is a walk in the park for me..and yup..I can vacuum form canopies as well... Metal work.. etching.. you name it .

Is anyone else feeling just a tiny bit inadequate?


>>>Did I ever tell you I played in a band too ?

As in a marching... or Sensational Alex Harvey??
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