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Old 13 August 2014, 15:43   #1
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Buying a larger SIB

Hi all, first time post here

We are going to buy a SIB to use down the road on the Tor/Torridge estuary. We are thinking of getting this one: Seapro 470HD - 4.7m Heavy Duty | Inflatables at Bill Higham Marine It's a 4.7m with an aluminium floor. We want something big enough for the whole family plus friends + luggage + camping gear and use it to visit beaches and coves on the estuary plus the occasional trip over the bar to sea when its calm weather.

I have been recommended a 30hp for it but my main question is whether or not two strong adults are going to be able to wheel the whole thing up a beach on transom wheels. Also I already have a 3hp outboard and was wondering if that could be mounted on the transom for emergencies.

After previous experiences I don't want to keep it inflated and moored up on the estuary, I just want to pack it away and take it home after use. If we had a driveway I'd consider a RIB but we can't have everything can we

Simon

-edit: Also can anyone point me to a website that sells accessories like sun canopies, cuddys etc for SIBs?
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Old 13 August 2014, 16:29   #2
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Depends on the beach but for me and my wife an Aerotec with engine off and partial gear (around 45kg) is a struggle. Our beach is very steep shingle/pebbles in banks, don't underestimate the huge increase in drag/effective weight this type of beach creates. Your rig will be *much* heavier.
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Old 13 August 2014, 16:50   #3
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Depends on the beach but for me and my wife an Aerotec with engine off and partial gear (around 45kg) is a struggle. Our beach is very steep shingle/pebbles in banks, don't underestimate the huge increase in drag/effective weight this type of beach creates. Your rig will be *much* heavier.
The beaches around here are pretty flat and we're only talking about rolling the boat out of the sea at high tide then settling down for a BBQ.
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Old 13 August 2014, 17:04   #4
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You should read this thread.
Disastrous start with new boat, need some advice.
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Old 13 August 2014, 17:15   #5
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I saw that... Not so good! But on the other hand my opinion may not be swayed by one negative thread...

Ok maybe I should expand this, what would others recommend I buy?

Needs to be wheelable on beaches at a push
Needs to seat up to 6 adults + luggage or 4 adults + kids + luggage
Needs to pack away
Needs to be decent quality
If only the bombard aerotech went bigger than 3.8m, I'd be straight on that.


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What vehicle are you going to put this SIB, adults and luggage into?

There's something missing in this picture - have you SEEN the HUGE pile of bags and machinery this SIB will pack down into? You'd be lucky to get it into an estate car without the PAX and their kit.
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Old 13 August 2014, 17:36   #7
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.......only talking about rolling the boat out of the sea at high tide then settling down for a BBQ.
It sounds easy on paper! Thats a big heavy cumbersome rig on a glassy sea let alone any kind of surf.
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What vehicle are you going to put this SIB, adults and luggage into?

There's something missing in this picture - have you SEEN the HUGE pile of bags and machinery this SIB will pack down into? You'd be lucky to get it into an estate car without the PAX and their kit.
We have a big vehicle and are lucky enough to live 200 yards from the estuary. Car carries kit, people walk. Like I said, not keen on leaving it moored. Boats get stolen/borrowed, vandalised a lot here unless you moor them right out on the mud, then you need another dinghy to get to your dinghy. We have a 10ft rowing dinghy that I keep on the estuary. I keep that looking as shitty as possible to put off would be thieves but it still gets 'borrowed' from time to time, then I have to spend the morning driving around all the usual slipways down the Torridge trying to find it. I have no driveway, but I do have a nice workshop where I can store things and work on them in the dry. So a SIB suits me fine. The only other craft that would foot the bill is a 14ft Porta-Bote and I am tempted by that TBH, if I can find one.

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Well, that doesn't sound entirely unworkable. I'm guessing but expect about an hour to rig the SIB from packed? Most of the bags will need two to lift, etc, but if you're OK for hands then you might be OK!
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Old 13 August 2014, 18:14   #10
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Hi Simon. I've got a Seapro 380hd with a 30hp 2 stroke engine (52kg) and to be honest it's a heavy bit of kit. I'm guessing around 140 kg plus fuel tank plus anchor etc. Have it set up on a De Graff road trailer. Went to Cornwall few weeks ago and to save on 21 per time launching cost decided to bring a launching trolley but took one look at the beach and it's deep sand thought no way even with 2 adults and 2 teenagers. Left it on trailer and got the tractor to do the work. It's prob possible but I didn't want all the effort and embarrassment if I couldn't haul it up the beach. That said there were quite a few sibbers with similar size boats with 20hp engines that did manage with transom wheel but bear in mind your boats bigger. Also just like to add Seapro boats get a bit of a bad press on Ribnet but in my experience my boat has been fine - although wasn't impressed with Simon Higham and his poor level of service when I bought the boat, had to wait months and months for extras I ordered.
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