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Old 20 August 2015, 17:34   #71
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It was nice previously when the Mods didn't contribute if you ask me - kinda like the speaker of the house. They become independent and arbitrate, not participate.



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That's never been the case though, and I can't imagine we'd get many takers for what would be a supremely thankless task!
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Old 20 August 2015, 17:39   #72
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It was nice previously when the Mods didn't contribute if you ask me
Which mods do you mean and when was this the case? I only go back to 2008 so I'm curious...
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Old 20 August 2015, 17:41   #73
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Are the mods self appointed?
Why aren't they voted in like a democracy? Or if they are voted in why can't they be removed by another vote

" how did you get into power "
" How much power have you got "
" and how do we get rid of you "

The late Rt honarable Tony Benn MP

"If one meets a powerful person - Rupert Murdoch, perhaps, or Joe Stalin or Hitler - one can ask five questions: what power do you have; where did you get it; in whose interests do you exercise it; to whom are you accountable; and, how can we get rid of you? Anyone who cannot answer the last of those questions does not live in a democratic system."

RIBnet is not, and has never been, a democracy. It is a benevolent oligarchy.

Mods are invited by me to lend a hand in with a range of administrative tasks as outlined by Poly previously.

I don't understand the hang up that some people seem to have with the mods. Here is my response to a post about them a few pages back. Any thoughts?


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If mods were capriciously deleting or posts, or threatening sanctions without due cause, then I would certainly be looking to replace them. However I don't see that happening.

Is it generally more annoying when someone argues with you if they happen to be a mod? Is there a feeling that they somehow have more "clout" because of it?

Should different posting standards apply to anyone who volunteers their time as a moderator?
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Old 20 August 2015, 17:42   #74
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Ah... its as easy as uploading a pic on a forum could ever be. I'm not complaining about that. But from android I can click my picture in the gallery tap share and pick FB ap (actually I can't coz I uninstalled it!!) and its on. Not aware I can do that to tapatalk. Plus if I'm not mistaken if I don't have signal it will queue it for later (certainly does with twitter).

Not saying its hard with the forum, just easier on FB.
But that doesn't share it to the group in fb it just puts it on your own status, this is the same reason there is no direct share to ribnet function in the app - the software would know which forum, or thread to post to.
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[QUOTE=John Kennett;690641]"If one meets a powerful person - Rupert Murdoch, perhaps, or Joe Stalin or Hitler - one can ask five questions: what power do you have; where did you get it; in whose interests do you exercise it; to whom are you accountable; and, how can we get rid of you? Anyone who cannot answer the last of those questions does not live in a democratic system."

RIBnet is not, and has never been, a democracy. It is a benevolent oligarchy.

Mods are invited by me.

Thank you for you accurate word for word quote you obviously googled that one,
My version is from memory and the ethos stands
We have a Murdoch regime it seems
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We have a Murdoch regime it seems
Aye. Poly is the Corporate Fine Print expert. I collect the personal data and Nos is the tarty ginger one... ;-)
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Aye. Poly is the Corporate Fine Print expert. I collect the personal data and Nos is the tarty ginger one... ;-)


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So I have been on forums pretty much since they started, dial up bulletin boards before that. I've seen a lot but I am no expert and most of you are from somewhere in GB and Ireland so that adds a degree of unknown about what is inappropriate vs here in the US.

That said, I don't see the mods abusing their power. If you are taking their opinions as fact and feel you can't argue with them because they are mods then the issue is yours. I've never seen a forum where the moderators can't participate in discussions.

I've never seen a moderator here threaten, delete, edit, ban, suspend, or do anything else capriciously that would justify taking action against them or doing anything different. I have seen plenty of that over the years elsewhere.

Again, if you got examples that would be helpful otherwise this is just a made up "problem".

This isn't a democracy, it's a forum that is one person's property, most of them are that way. Again, examples of why that is an issue or it's just another made up "problem". I have certainly seen forums where that was an issue, this isn't it.

Zukerberg owns, or at least runs FB, it's not a democracy either and it does a lot worse with sharing all that real name data and having moving target privacy and acceptable content policies. It's not a trade for discussion nirvana I am willing to make.

So far the only actual negative comment I have seen was posted by somebody complaining its too negative here and when I said something about that he apparently replied with language the moderators actually moderated. (aka doing their job)

I've seen a reputable long time member here leave because one jerk-somebody questioned the legitimacy of his product and it was taken as a question of the reputable long time poster's character I think. I'm not sure why that lead to leaving instead of telling the jerk off but that's life on the high seas.

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That's never been the case though, and I can't imagine we'd get many takers for what would be a supremely thankless task!
It's my perception that in recent year's they've become more vocal compared to when I first joined Ribnet.

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It's my perception that in recent year's they've become more vocal compared to when I first joined Ribnet
dats cuz yoov gott a irysh gitt, a scotch gitt an a inglish gitt.

too much fukin deevolooshun.

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