Improving RIBnet

[zip]

Haven't read this thread yet, but will when I get home.

I love this site, but it would be nice if there was a section where we could post the pics of women who like to get naked on our boats.

[willk]

Originally Posted by zip

Haven't read this thread yet, but will when I get home.

I love this site, but it would be nice if there was a section where we could post the pics of women who like to get naked on our boats.

But there is! It's called "Quarantine" and your favourite pics will be in good company. Bring 'em on!

[The Black Pig]

Originally Posted by zip

Haven't read this thread yet, but will when I get home.

I love this site, but it would be nice if there was a section where we could post the pics of women who like to get naked on our boats.

Now that's what I'm talking about!!!

[Custom RIB]

Hi, I've recently joined as a trade member but in the past I have been doing charity stuff on here, I feel a bit uneasy about that so I have now set up a Custom RIB account please can you transfer my trade membership to my Custom RIB account and I will become the 'real' Whisper again for normal chat. Thank you

[John Kennett]

Yes, no problem. I'll get that sorted out for you.

[Ian M]

Not been active much recently due to a number of things. I have tended to dip in and out of RN (like it, but did worry about big guns symbolism when I first saw it ), cannot do that with Facebook very easily, or at least this old fool can't. So I look at FB and contribute very little, I read RN and enjoy the format.
I have only ever met one of the mods, and he is certainly a larger than life character, and likeable. The only time I had overt abuse on here he dealt with it very quickly. I have no personal experience of any of the other mods, so I will keep any opinions I have formed to myself. However, I am amazed at the time they must commit to the forum; couldn't do that with my life and commitments.
Enough rambling, I have no firm suggestions for you John, merely a plea. Less PC, and more tolerance of the 'harder edged' contributors. I feel that RN is slowly but surely edging towards a pink and fluffy non existence.
Finally, the Church was mentioned earlier, great shame those meetings fell apart, anyone interested in getting them going again? Could even be mentioned on the dark side

[whisper]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

Yes, no problem. I'll get that sorted out for you.

Thank you

[matt h]

Well said Ian. I believe it heading for the pink n fluffy state to.Well done John for keeping it going!

[willk]

Originally Posted by matt h

Well said Ian. I believe it heading for the pink n fluffy state to.Well done John for keeping it going!

That's an interesting observation. I've heard it more than a few times and yet there is a group of members who say exactly the opposite! The reality is that there is relatively little actual moderation done, other than the "dusting", which consists of fixing up the blooper reel and some other housekeeping. That said, every month or so someone will need a nudge to keep them right. Most go with the flow but some, a very small number indeed, feel that they should have the final decision about what is acceptable here. From that juncture they tend to bang on trying to make a point and become a nuisance until they "flounce" or have a "lie down" for a period.

FWIW, I agree that RN has lost a bit of the "Frontier" edginess it had previously. I'm all for a heated discussion about the merits of a hull or engine or technique, but when people stand up from the table and begin shoving and hurling abuse then it's time to call a halt, IMO. The Mods have to decide when and how to intervene and we're a little like the seaborne nuclear deterrent - if the sight of a periscope doesn't calm things down then we really only have the Ultimate Sanction left - and that can be messy! If members find themselves "advised" by Mods, it will generally be because their comments and contents are heading towards troubled water which from our experience more unhappiness will arise. Time was the REALLY bad boys went to Boatmad - looks like that's RIBnet now and the nice kids play on Facebook RHIBs group - where there are no jaggy edges on the slide or needles behind the shelter...

[willk]

Originally Posted by Ian M

I have no personal experience of any of the other mods, so I will keep any opinions I have formed to myself.

Originally Posted by Ian M

However, I am amazed at the time they must commit to the forum; couldn't do that with my life and commitments.

Dunno about Poly. I have unusual personal circumstances which allow me to dip in and out of RIBnet regularly most days. I find it highly amusing and it takes up remarkably little time because I speedread and tend to retain a good mental picture of what's current on here. If things are peaceful or dull then I visit less often. If I'm socialising, on holiday or at sea - then I couldn't be @rsed looking in at all

I'm a member of Boatmad too, and RHIBs - but I don't post much, call me Goldilocks, but RIBnet is JUST right for me!

[Anchorhandler]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

Fair enough, I did ask for suggestions! It doesn't actually tell me what the problem is though. ?

Hi John

Sorry for not replying sooner, I've been traveling/working recently and not had many opportunities to reply using a proper PC having only my phone as an option.
I hate typing long(ish) messages from my phone, As time moves on, the size of my fingers and the size of my phones seem to be inversely proportional!

I think part of the problem that I see can be summarised by sticking with the pub analogy...
So, Your in the pub (The RN Arms??) drinking and having a chat. Many of the people in the pub are locals who, although generally friendly, see a lot of "grockles" come and go on a daily basis. The touriss rarely give cause for concern but admittedly the locals do get a bit tired of having the same conversation with them over and over again.
Every so often though, one of the tourists (or locals for that matter) starts taking the piss out of the type of car one of the grockles (or regulars) is driving. This degenerates into a slagging match until one of the regulars not involved in the argument discretely text messages the local bobby.

The plod soon turns up to calm things down but is greeted by cheers, jokes and general familiar banter from the locals as he walks through the door, after all, they've known him for a long time as he too is a "local".

The copper sorts things out, and in all fairness does it in a professional and unbiased manner however throughout the event, sarcastic (but funny) comments are exchanged between copper and Mollers...oops, I mean "locals" loitering in the background. This wrongly makes all the other tourists visiting the pub believe the local copper is acting in favour of his "local" mates even though he has in fact done the right thing and actually behaved quite responsibly.

The word then spreads that PC Wilk () is somehow bent and turns a blind eye to the plight of the poor tourists who only pass by every so often.

(Of course, you have to feel for the poor tourist who gets into a scrape on the day that PC Poly is on duty!!....)

So how do you cure this?...., the only way I can see is to rotate the bobby's every so often. (hence my comments about a maximum term in power)

I think the pub itself (IMHO) has gotten a bit of a reputation as being a "local's pub" and although its well managed and the cider tastes good, many people tend to come in and sip their pints quietly in the corner all the time eavesdropping on the conversations had by the regulars.

One thing I particularly like about this pub is that the big screen TV up on the wall showing Sky sports news is actually in a separate room to the bar allowing the more "refined" visitors a chance to engage in proper adult conversation!!

Did ANY of this actually make sense??

Simon

[wiLlfish]

Originally Posted by Anchorhandler

Did ANY of this actually make sense??

fuk orl eksept de bitt bowt wilIk bein bennt.

[Anchorhandler]

Originally Posted by wiLlfish

fuk orl eksept de bitt bowt wilIk bein bennt.

wiLlfish !!!

Thnk the "pub" needs to be re-named

"The wiLfish's head" maybe??

Simon

[Bern Hanreck]

My 2d worth..............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaA3YZ6QdJU

It's always hard to please everyone ! If it aint broke , don't fix it !

[Maximus]

Blimey this thing still going!?

Opened a-(nother) Can a worms or what?!
People like moaning/bitching (about most things)Forums/Mod's/layouts graphics ect are obviously no exception!
Really They just reflect society...and generally you GET what you deserve!
Bit like the Goverment of the day ....and we all know (or bloody should!) if you're rely on ANY Government to make you Happy...Contented..or Rich....you'll be waiting for a LONNGG Time!
(See Pikey Dave's rule #5!!...!()

[Chris Caton]

Originally Posted by wiLlfish

fuk orl eksept de bitt bowt wilIk bein bennt.

[Chris Caton]

Originally Posted by Anchorhandler

Hi John

Sorry for not replying sooner, I've been traveling/working recently and not had many opportunities to reply using a proper PC having only my phone as an option.
I hate typing long(ish) messages from my phone, As time moves on, the size of my fingers and the size of my phones seem to be inversely proportional!

I think part of the problem that I see can be summarised by sticking with the pub analogy...
So, Your in the pub (The RN Arms??) drinking and having a chat. Many of the people in the pub are locals who, although generally friendly, see a lot of "grockles" come and go on a daily basis. The touriss rarely give cause for concern but admittedly the locals do get a bit tired of having the same conversation with them over and over again.
Every so often though, one of the tourists (or locals for that matter) starts taking the piss out of the type of car one of the grockles (or regulars) is driving. This degenerates into a slagging match until one of the regulars not involved in the argument discretely text messages the local bobby.

The plod soon turns up to calm things down but is greeted by cheers, jokes and general familiar banter from the locals as he walks through the door, after all, they've known him for a long time as he too is a "local".

The copper sorts things out, and in all fairness does it in a professional and unbiased manner however throughout the event, sarcastic (but funny) comments are exchanged between copper and Mollers...oops, I mean "locals" loitering in the background. This wrongly makes all the other tourists visiting the pub believe the local copper is acting in favour of his "local" mates even though he has in fact done the right thing and actually behaved quite responsibly.

The word then spreads that PC Wilk () is somehow bent and turns a blind eye to the plight of the poor tourists who only pass by every so often.

(Of course, you have to feel for the poor tourist who gets into a scrape on the day that PC Poly is on duty!!....)

So how do you cure this?...., the only way I can see is to rotate the bobby's every so often. (hence my comments about a maximum term in power)

I think the pub itself (IMHO) has gotten a bit of a reputation as being a "local's pub" and although its well managed and the cider tastes good, many people tend to come in and sip their pints quietly in the corner all the time eavesdropping on the conversations had by the regulars.

One thing I particularly like about this pub is that the big screen TV up on the wall showing Sky sports news is actually in a separate room to the bar allowing the more "refined" visitors a chance to engage in proper adult conversation!!

Did ANY of this actually make sense??

Simon

makes sense to me Simon, but that might be due to the beer 🍻😋

[Nasher]

Originally Posted by Ian M

the Church was mentioned earlier, great shame those meetings fell apart, anyone interested in getting them going again? Could even be mentioned on the dark side

Ian hi nice to see you're still around.

The Church meetings were a good opportunity to meet a few people, and spawned quite a few cruises, although I can imagine how others from other areas could have seen it as bit of a clique.
We did of course also have the Xmas dinner, which was well attended for a few years.

The whole thing just sort of petered out as some of the regular people who attended moved on both from RIBs and geographically.
I carried on posting the date for a while, but after 2 months of nobody turning up to join me I gave up.

Nasher.

[Poly]

Simon, only issue is that in your analogy nobody has called the cops for ages (and even then it was hardly a regular occurance). I had a quick skim back through the post reports and I think the last one for someone complaining about other members behaviour was at least six months ago. I wish people would point out these posts that cross the line (even if they are from the mods) rather than have them becoming legendary.

[Anchorhandler]

Originally Posted by Poly

Simon, only issue is that in your analogy nobody has called the cops for ages (and even then it was hardly a regular occurance). I had a quick skim back through the post reports and I think the last one for someone complaining about other members behaviour was at least six months ago. I wish people would point out these posts that cross the line (even if they are from the mods) rather than have them becoming legendary.

Hi

It may very well have been that the cop was already in the bar listening into the argument...

The point I was making is that, since all the mods have been "modding" for some time now they do have a very familiar relationship with the other more habitual visitors to the site.
This in itself is by no means an issue but I can understand why some newer members might see this as a bit intimidating, especially if these members aren't fully conversant with RN 's rules and protocols.

When I was younger I stupidly got into a fight with some doormen in front of a nightclub, the police were just around the corner and arrived on scene almost immediately. They obviously knew the doormen and were joking with them as they took their statements. The police never abused their powers and technically did nothing wrong but the fact they were joking with the doormen not only fueled my anger but made me distrust the police over the whole incident and lead me to think they were taking sides with the door staff.

To be fair though I don't actually remember ever seeing a mod abuse their powers but I have seen plenty of times where mods will "warn" (or even ban) someone and at the same time joke about it to other members.... all in the same thread.
My point was that this can possibly be seen by some as an abuse of power although in reality it actually has nothing to with it.
In my profession (like in many others) we try to maintain a certain "distance" between the management that enforces the rules and say... the boys on the factory floor... Being too familiar just leads to mistrust and helps fuel the rumour mill.
It probably sounds like I'm suggesting the mods take a back chair and only appear "when needed" but this isn't my wish. I enjoy reading many of the mods comments which I find contribute enormously to the site. It would certainly be a shame (and unproductive) to mute these but I can certainly understand some of the comments (complaints) I have heard recently about RN because of this.
Difficult one to resolve but as it's already been said also, if it's just a minority that are complaining and the site is still as popular as ever then let's just move on.
Hats off to JK for starting this thread though, good to see that, even though it may only be a minority, he's still willing to listen.

Simon