ribcraft and scotseats anyone?

[jambo]

Originally Posted by Xk59D

will see how it holds up, it is a normal winch as i'm too cheap to buy the pukka one you did



cheers

I'm sure it'll be fine Paul it'll help your back also. Listen I can't afford your luxury seats mate you'll have to keep me posted as I might save up my pension for a pair. [emoji106]

[Xk59D]

if you are ever about then you are welcome to give them a go next outing dude

[jambo]

Originally Posted by Xk59D

if you are ever about then you are welcome to give them a go next outing dude

Cheers[emoji106][emoji106]

[Poly]

How often do you need to service the Fox shock?

[Xk59D]

I think they said 10 years but don't quote me on it.

They have a lot of shocks at the factory they showed me and not many make the grade.

[69cmw]

Originally Posted by Xk59D

I think they said 10 years but don't quote me on it.

They have a lot of shocks at the factory they showed me and not many make the grade.

10 years? Fox recommend servicing mountain bike shocks every year.

[Xk59D]

These are a different animal to any bike shocks, much bigger affair with more seals due to pressure and sweeper seals, I think they say 300psi rate on them but we use about 40.

I believe they originated from snow mobiles and tweaked to suit this app.

I will ask during week though.

[jeffstevens763@g]

Originally Posted by 69cmw

10 years? Fox recommend servicing mountain bike shocks every year.

That's because of the amount of dirt grinding away at the seals & ram probably

[Poly]

Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

That's because of the amount of dirt grinding away at the seals & ram probably

Possibly, but salt and sand hardly seem like the best bedfellows of moving parts either. It's more likely if they didn't come from a bike that weight wasn't quite so high up the list of design priorities, so they have actually made something robust! By marine standards servicing is not too expensive, but for Fox its not usually a simple DIY job so could be a pita if you have to send them off at the wrong time in the season. Will be interesting to hear what is recommended, and if they are happy being left for 6 months of the year unused.

[Xk59D]

The kit to rebuild them is 36 dollars from a quick Google and fox have a rebuild guide pdf on their website and plenty of vids on YouTube so doesn't look a massive deal tbh.

Fox suggest a rebuild every 3000-5000 miles on a snow mobile according to the blurb for a rebuild, that is what they were originally made for. I don't know how much tweaking was made for the suspension seats though, probably very little if any.

I have already ordered shock socks for them to keep salt out as best possible but I'm confident it wouldn't be a massive issue anyway due to the massive sweeper seal on it. It is actually for clearing ice off according to the manual.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...9jOBNUgF5MPJyA


https://www.carverperformance.com/pr...cat=313&page=1

Anyways, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

I won't treat it any different to my hydraulic steering ram, keep it as clean as possible and that is all you can do.

[jeffstevens763@g]

i dont know about scott seats but the coastal pro rams i had looked like motor bike shocks all i did was wash off and spray WD40 all over.
mine didn't have socks on but not sure if they are good or bad yes they will keep most of the crap off but would they create humid atmosphere causing problems just a thought.
lovely job by the way Xk59D

[Xk59D]

Fair point, my boat is inside so unlikely I'll have any issue but all you can do is keep it clean and see what happens.

[Pikey Dave]

The Ullmans get rinsed of along with the rest of the boat & then get a spray with silicone along with steering ram, helm, engine block etc.

[Xk59D]

For those that asked, the shocks technically can be serviced every year when in use in a dirty environment.

Scot seats have been using these shocks for 3 years now and not one of them has needed servicing....and there is a lot of them out there. So basically if you see air loss get them serviced or if worried about it as often as you want.

Whilst I don't know their sales figures I do know since I ordered these seats they have sold thousands of them to various places ( i was in a huge queue ) so a lot of seats have air shocks knocking about.

[hobbal]

Location Howth yacht

[Shark Seats]

Just want to let you all know that we have put a bit of info up about our suspension seats here:

http://www.rib.net/forum/f43/suspens...ing-76731.html

There are some advantages that we hope you will like.

Cheers
Shark Team.

[Xk59D]

Little update, my seats are coming off for a small upgrade. Scots recently announced a partnership with a new cushion system for the actual seat so they will be going in for that shortly which should help my back out even more. The cost is literally peanuts due to me just fitting them so be rude not to

Will post updates in due course when done.

What's new | Scotseats

[PaulShark]

Interesting to see some discussion here about shock life, materials and replacement. We make our own fully stainless-steel shocks specifically for boat seat applications .. you just don't get the performance you need by fitting shocks that started out as bicycle or off-road shocks - it needs to be re-designed from the ground-up... and start with a material that doesn't need a coating to stop it corroding. As far as I'm aware ours are the only stainless shocks on boat seats. Here is a boat with 36 of them:
https://scontent.fchc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...1f&oe=5CE9A864

[PaulShark]

[QUOTE=Xk59D;752269]These are a different animal to any bike shocks, much bigger affair with more seals due to pressure and sweeper seals, I think they say 300psi rate on them but we use about 40.

The Fox shocks are quite complex .. they have high pressure (300psi) in the shock absorber to stop the oil from vaporising during large impacts, and you cannot access that to change the pressure .. but what you see on the outside is not the shock absorber (which has a much smaller diameter) but an air-sleeve which you run at lower pressure and you can adjust it although that only changes the ride height and does not help the performance much. We used to run these in our Shark suspension seats but ended up designing our own stainless steel shocks for improved performance, less bulk and less weight and vastly simplified maintenance (ie none). After 5 years we have only replaced about 2% of these shocks.. which costs less than a service on a Fox shock

[Bushrider]

My Vipermax came already with the Scotseats installed . They came with the hydraulic shocks and steel springs .
They worked only to an certain extend well - when they bottomed out - that HURT ..
In 2014 they were replaced with the FOX airshocks .
Could not be happier . Comfort has increased SIGNIFICANTLY . Those who know me know that these seats have not an easy job with me ))
Never touched them since they were installed. They are keeping air and keeping me happy .
This week they went into my Scorpion .