Project Ribcraft 585

[A1an]

Picked this up a couple of weeks ago. It’s in great condition. The plan is to get a Pacific console, 4 jockey seat, fuel tank below deck, replace all wiring and electronics, new A frame. I’m going to need an engine too. Talking of engines, it’ll be an XL as I’m going to extend the transom.

[A1an]

Some of the eagle eyed of you will notice that the splash well has been changed. The previous owner increased the size of the splashwell due to it shipping a bit of water on to the deck.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by A1an

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Some of the eagle eyed of you will notice that the splash well has been changed. The previous owner increased the size of the splashwell due to it shipping a bit of water on to the deck.

Looks a tidy project. Get that transom raised & a 150 Merc on the back & she’s a keeper [emoji6]

[A1an]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Looks a tidy project. Get that transom raised & a 150 Merc on the back & she’s a keeper [emoji6]

That’s the plan for the transom, struggling to justify the Merc though.

[wgc851]

Looking sharp, will be interested to see how she turns out, providing you don't ruin it by putting a Merc on the back [emoji23]

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by A1an

That’s the plan for the transom, struggling to justify the Merc though.

You know you want it. Resistance is futile [emoji6]

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by wgc851

providing you don't ruin it by putting a Merc on the back [emoji23]

Back in your box[emoji23]

[jambo]

Originally Posted by wgc851

Looking sharp, will be interested to see how she turns out, providing you don't ruin it by putting a Merc on the back [emoji23]

And what is wrong with a Merc on the back?!!

[lakelandterrier]

I think I'd opt for the Merc now if I was getting another 585

[jambo]

Originally Posted by lakelandterrier

I think I'd opt for the Merc now if I was getting another 585

Best thing I’ve ever did when I changed from the old 150 smoker. Merc 150 is a really good match for the 585.

[spartacus]

Nice Ribcraft 585 Alan.

Upturned bow looks like a Delta Dash 5.5. Twin side by side jockeys will be great for riding shotgun on trips. Looking forward to the build.

[A1an]

does anyone have a picture of the location of the underdeck fuel tank? This one has a tank in the console but its going along with the console. looking like ill need to sink a tank in to the hull somehow.

[Orwell boy]

Originally Posted by A1an

does anyone have a picture of the location of the underdeck fuel tank? This one has a tank in the console but its going along with the console. looking like ill need to sink a tank in to the hull somehow.

No i dont know but i will tell a couple of facts which may help ...
I saw a ribcraft 90 litre tank on their show stand at southampton ,it had a strange tube sticking up from the front of a delta type shape tank and a second larger tube back a little off centre
Those tubes were front middle ,,mounting for fuel sender and second for filler tube
Now owning my 5.3 with inboard 90 litre tank the somewhat hideous sender mounting tube is immediately behind the front opening locker door ,which in my console (centre mount inline ) very forward mounted
what i am suggesting from this is the console front is only an inch foward of the front of the fuel tank .........which may also be true in the 585 as they seem to be creatures of habit ,,,my 5.3 is 2004 ish

[A1an]

yip, makes perfect sense, its along the lines im thinking.

thanks.

[lakelandterrier]

I'd wonder why it has a tank in the console.

The standard RC set up is for a 90 / 120l S/S underfloor tank which as OrwellBoy says sits in the centre below the console running aft.

Could it be the original tank failed / got gummed up so the simpler fix was to put a tank in the console as as opposed to cutting into and taking up the console / deck?

[A1an]

Originally Posted by lakelandterrier

I'd wonder why it has a tank in the console.

The standard RC set up is for a 90 / 120l S/S underfloor tank which as OrwellBoy says sits in the centre below the console running aft.

Could it be the original tank failed / got gummed up so the simpler fix was to put a tank in the console as as opposed to cutting into and taking up the console / deck?

Possibly. Everyone I have spoken too has said it should have an underfloor tank. Im sure ill find out for sure when I cut a bit of the floor out.

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by A1an

Possibly. Everyone I have spoken too has said it should have an underfloor tank. Im sure ill find out for sure when I cut a bit of the floor out.

I've got a 6.5 rc & its not got underfloor tank either, it depends what was specified at time of purchase. I had it in mind to fit an underfloor tank as I'm also switching the single console for a side by side however after having a conversation with Dave Anderson (Davie on here) he said insurance companies were getting funny about retro fitted under deck tanks, that and the new fuel specs & potential issues decided I'd stick with over deck tanks which are easier to access if there are any issues & supplement with remote tanks. That and the poor availability of waterside refuelling points here in Scotland makes carrying mulitple remote tanks the lesser of two evils. Far easier to transport & fill remote tanks than it is to fill & decant from Jerry cans. Adr rules mean you can legally fill & transport dedicated remote fuel tanks for boats but you can't legaly carry or fill the same quantity into Jerry cans

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[jakew009]

Originally Posted by beamishken

I've got a 6.5 rc & its not got underfloor tank either, it depends what was specified at time of purchase. I had it in mind to fit an underfloor tank as I'm also switching the single console for a side by side however after having a conversation with Dave Anderson (Davie on here) he said insurance companies were getting funny about retro fitted under deck tanks, that and the new fuel specs & potential issues decided I'd stick with over deck tanks which are easier to access if there are any issues & supplement with remote tanks. That and the poor availability of waterside refuelling points here in Scotland makes carrying mulitple remote tanks the lesser of two evils. Far easier to transport & fill remote tanks than it is to fill & decant from Jerry cans. Adr rules mean you can legally fill & transport dedicated remote fuel tanks for boats but you can't legaly carry or fill the same quantity into Jerry cans

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If the underfloor tank job was done properly, how would the insurance company know? I’d find a new insurance company if they started messing around like that.

As for the Jerry cans, I’m not sure that’s the case, but if so why not just use 25l boat tanks and treat them like Jerry cans…

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by jakew009

If the underfloor tank job was done properly, how would the insurance company know? I’d find a new insurance company if they started messing around like that.



As for the Jerry cans, I’m not sure that’s the case, but if so why not just use 25l boat tanks and treat them like Jerry cans…

Not sure what the insurance issue is I didn't look too far into it but after considering our usual use I decided remote tanks were the best option for us. Easier to keep clean or clean out & easier to fill if no dockside pumps (very few in Scotland). And if we're going long distsnce and may want to fill away from base then tanks are legal & easier to fill & transport than an inboard tank. Its illegal to fill & transport fuel in Jerry cans but not in remote tanks.
It's also easier to use up unused fuel in other equipment with remote tanks. All things considered I decided it wasnt worth the cost or effort to fit an underfloor tank that would make life harder for us

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[neil.mccrirrick]

From the hse site. No problem using cans to carry fuel unless they are incorrectly marked

The small load exemptions (Main Exemptions) will be applicable up to a total quantity of 333 litres (if other dangerous goods are carried the aggregation rules must be applied). The containers must be UN approved (see Packaging) and properly labelled (see Consignment Procedures). Typical 5 litre containers purchased from car accessory shops and garages may not be so approved.
A typical case would be the carriage of two or three jerricans in a van. Providing those cans are UN approved, marked UN 1203 and labelled with the flammable diamond, the only requirements are

Driver training in accordance with ADR 1.3
Carry 2 kg fire extinguisher
Stow the jerry cans correctly to avoid damage or loss from the vehicle
Note: a typical steel jerry can might be marked circle containing letter u above letter n 3A1/Y/170/**/GB/****

** is the year of manufacture and **** the packaging certificate number.

In this case no density figure is give after the "Y" which means it is suitable only for liquids with relative density ≤ 1.2 (petrol is typically 0.8 or less)