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Old 20 October 2013, 11:45   #1
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Moving the Consol on a SR4.7

Basically i want to move the consol . currently it is bolted with M12 or M14 bolts through the deck, Blind Hole.
Is there a product that is available where you can drill.. screw or place an insert into the deck and its tightens up through the deck expanding the insert so that it locks into the decking... like a rawlplug type stylee
Anybody seen anything that might help?
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Old 20 October 2013, 11:56   #2
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A stainless Steel Rivnut may do it, but I'm not sure of the strength of them?

Don't forget that there are air tanks under the floor but not sure where on a 4.7
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A stainless Steel Rivnut may do it, but I'm not sure of the strength of them?

Don't forget that there are air tanks under the floor but not sure where on a 4.7
not sure anything similar to a rivnut would have much in the way of strength when fitted to a deck

looks like yet something else I didn't know about SRs, air tanks are they fitted on SR4s, do I need to avoid any drilling through the deck
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if you look up through the flooding hull you will see fibreglass boxed section under the deck. need to avoid drilling them Chris
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if you look up through the flooding hull you will see fibreglass boxed section under the deck. need to avoid drilling them Chris
ahhhh ....... right, thanks for the info Matt, as usual I learn something new every day, I'd spotted something when looking in the hull, but never thought of air tanks, glad I asked
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could you fit a plate through the hull with nuts welded so you can bolt through the deck into the nuts ?
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Its a possible but not ideal as the proper location of the seat is over the airbox and dont want to drill thro that lot and drill would have to be 3 ft log. The consol is totally innthe wrong position. Too far forward and too far to the right so your right foot is angled up the side of the hull so has to be moved. Or drive it side saddle stylee!
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The consol is totally innthe wrong position.
On the inside of the hull?
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Its a possible but not ideal as the proper location of the seat is over the airbox and dont want to drill thro that lot and drill would have to be 3 ft log. The consol is totally innthe wrong position. Too far forward and too far to the right so your right foot is angled up the side of the hull so has to be moved. Or drive it side saddle stylee!
sorry, old age creeping in again, I meant through the deck, not the hull

I can sort you a 3ft drill, no probs with that, but I was thinking of a piece of flat bar with nuts welded on that you could feed into the hull via the transom hole, then pass the bolts through the deck into the nuts, so the console n deck are sandwiched
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I know these are NOT Marine fixings but look good idea...might be able to modify for marine use?

Grip It Heavy Duty Plasterboard Fixing - Type 25-2

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Used these in the past for my fishing box, personally put silka flex on the threads prior to screwing in also,

Works well for me,,
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sorry, old age creeping in again, I meant through the deck, not the hull

I can sort you a 3ft drill, no probs with that, but I was thinking of a piece of flat bar with nuts welded on that you could feed into the hull via the transom hole, then pass the bolts through the deck into the nuts, so the console n deck are sandwiched
I think possibly that would work. yes. ideally i wanted to stick with original type fixings. like the Rivett lock insert so that i could remove the Consol if reqd.
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Brill. the consol takes a hell of a bashing and the stresses on the Four Bolts mush be reasonable, do you think they would hold that type of pressure?
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I fitted a pop top roof on a camper using these rivnuts so I still have the tool, but not the size you need, think the biggest insert I have is M8 I used for the gas struts.

If you think this method is strong enough I could see if I can get the right insert.
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I'd have though you'd want to increase number of bolts from 4...
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I fitted a pop top roof on a camper using these rivnuts so I still have the tool, but not the size you need, think the biggest insert I have is M8 I used for the gas struts.

If you think this method is strong enough I could see if I can get the right insert.
The Inserts have to be Stainless M10 which will give a spanner size of 17mm.. after doing some searchin around, no one does 1.5 inch long versions. im assuming the Deck is 1 inch thick??
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I'd have though you'd want to increase number of bolts from 4...
Defo the way to go!
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You will need a really good floor for these to hold. If you do get them in satisfactorily they won't stay there long. Tell me if your console has lip on the inside or out
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