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Old 04 May 2006, 20:57   #1
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What's the biggest boat you can tow with a Landie??

Would I get away with towing a 26ft boat on a trailer???
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if its under 3.5 tonnes then fine, if the td5 or even better the new engine then good and possibly worth chipping up the engine. if the boat is a rib that will be fine as they are quite light compared to cruisers

be prepared to crawl up hills as i think many other diesels in other 4x4s are much better than the td5s and 200/300s
i am given to understand the isuzu td would eat a landy for towing but i have only ever towed with 200/300 and td5 landies and a 3500 shogun



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Was this a legal question or a realistic question?
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Would I get away with towing a 26ft boat on a trailer???
I know 3 people who tow boats for a living - they now use Land Rovers after trying most of the competition.

One of the blokes travels all over Europe delivering boats - he even has a tacho in the thing!!! He does about 80,000 miles a year and it is towing all the time. He has had no troubles with his Landie at all.

He tows some REALLY big boats.

A 26ft RIB wouldn't be a problem at all.

I often see the Quinquari boats being towed - they are about 10 or 11m and pretty heavy - as long as the all up weight is less than 3500kgs you will be ok.
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wow must be just all the landies i have owned then that are gutless wonders!

if i was towing professionally for a living i would definatley not tow with a landy 200/300/td5 for sure.

mind you that is only based on experience
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I know 3 people who tow boats for a living - they now use Land Rovers after trying most of the competition.

One of the blokes travels all over Europe delivering boats - he even has a tacho in the thing!!! He does about 80,000 miles a year and it is towing all the time. He has had no troubles with his Landie at all.

He tows some REALLY big boats.

A 26ft RIB wouldn't be a problem at all.

I often see the Quinquari boats being towed - they are about 10 or 11m and pretty heavy - as long as the all up weight is less than 3500kgs you will be ok.
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7m is the law + draw bar + overang

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Old 06 May 2006, 00:11   #7
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wow must be just all the landies i have owned then that are gutless wonders!

if i was towing professionally for a living i would definatley not tow with a landy 200/300/td5 for sure.

mind you that is only based on experience
Doubt you have as much experience of towing as people who do it for a living.......

Of course they may be really stupid and are just buying Land Rovers for fun......
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wow must be just all the landies i have owned then that are gutless wonders!

if i was towing professionally for a living i would definatley not tow with a landy 200/300/td5 for sure.

mind you that is only based on experience
Could be how you drive?
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I know 3 people who tow boats for a living - they now use Land Rovers after trying most of the competition.
I reckon that tax may be the reason for using something that's easier to justify as a commercial vehicle!

Most people I know with large RIBs (ie 8-10m) prefer the Toyota Landcruiser Amazon as their weapon of choice. Cookee is not alone in his choice of a Nissan Navara, and Mitsubishi Shoguns take a lot of punishment. American imports are also surprisingly popular, and For RIBs where the gross weight exceeds 3500kg a Ford F350 can have a hydraulic brake conversion.

Sounds like your acquaintances are small fish in a big sea - the real professionals use a MAN tractor!
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They use bigger when the need arises!!
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I tow with a 04 defender 90 td5, however I would think Toyota Land Cruiser, Nissan Patrol, Range Rover provide more weight, power and comfort.

My 8m Sitting on this trailer is 9.5m long with overhang and 2.6m wide, however the side frames of the trailer are within the law and because im a business i have a tachograph fitted, and any business towing a combined maximum authorised mass (total possible weight of car and trailer) of over 3500 kg must have a tachograph fitted.


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even the car mags, the caravan mags say the 200/300/td5 landies are nice but a bit sluggish, so we cant all be wrong!

I enjoy towing with mine but when you hit the big hills in cornwall and coming out of towns then they are a bit gutless, most serious towers chip them and add larger intercoolers to bring the bhp to near 200bhp which transforms the car but i will be selling mine so made a decision of not going to bother with that.

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Doubt you have as much experience of towing as people who do it for a living.......

Of course they may be really stupid and are just buying Land Rovers for fun......
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even the car mags, the caravan mags say the 200/300/td5 landies are nice but a bit sluggish, so we cant all be wrong!

I enjoy towing with mine but when you hit the big hills in cornwall and coming out of towns then they are a bit gutless, most serious towers chip them and add larger intercoolers to bring the bhp to near 200bhp which transforms the car but i will be selling mine so made a decision of not going to bother with that.
HuGH me old mucker. What you really want is one of these..... ( I believe they come with a 300bhp cat diesel!)
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Maybe not Bling enough but certainly pretty good at towing - not bad offroad and quite fast as well.
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This guy is often towing 13m rib's from Belgium all the way up to Sweden.
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Old 08 May 2006, 12:39   #16
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Towing

My ol landie defender td5 tows the rib about quuite happily ta. but me thinks that you buy the motor you like or you can afford, personaly I know it's not quick I know it's not flash but it's reasonably cheap to fix holds it's price well and I aint in no hurry so it suits me, oh it also caries 9 divers and their kit plus drags the boat, happy yep and it aint gone chip and pin either. And theres an out fit in norwich that uses a standerd one to drag broken down dust carts. so what will it tow about ten tons if your in no hurry.
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Weight is not the only issue. I have been stopped towing my 8.1 behind a Discovery. Well within weight limits but over the 7.0M length permisible with thsi class of vehicle.

http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/law/dimensions.htm

there is no permissible overhangs a rear of trailer so even when you messured from whinch post I was well over.
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Jono,

I'm confused... Does the fact that you have a tacho fitted excempt you from the 7m max trailer length for a vehicle with a kerb weight of less than 3.5 tonnes? Here's an extract from the regulations Ashleyd mentioned:

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If the towing vehicle has a permissible gross weight in excess of 3.5 tonnes the maximum width and length of the trailer are 2.55 metres and 12 metres respectively. If however the gross weight of the towing vehicle is 3.5 tonnes or less then the maximum permissible width and length are 2.3 metres and 7 metres respectively. In both cases the overall length of the towing vehicle and trailer must not exceed either 18m or 18.75m depending on the type of towing vehicle.

BTW, I am aware that the draw bar is not included in the calculation of the length of a trailer.


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so if the drawbar is not included how long was the trailer you use for your boat ashleyd? as looking at the same sort of size you have bu still want to be able to tow it. Tornado one used to be towed around and that was 8.5 metres.
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