Upper Clyde run to city Sun 7th Sep - Page 2

BruceB · 23 August 2008, 15:03

Do you know anyone that would take you along? I would offer but I suspect my other half is thinking of asking her mother along which fills me with deep joy

iandl · 23 August 2008, 16:10

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Originally Posted by BruceB

I suspect my other half is thinking of asking her mother along which fills me with deep joy

trying to get one of the guys i work with to lend me his disco 3 .......he hasnt replied as yet

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Bigmuz7 · 23 August 2008, 21:10

Can we make a muster point then on the exit of Kip as you come out of the marina on the right hand side, on the Cloch side, for everyone for 10:30 Am

BruceB · 23 August 2008, 21:40

I am going to PM for mobile and MMSI numbers early next week so we all can keep in contact but it can wait till nearer the time and a better idea of who is coming. Numbers should have firmed up by then when weather etc is more readable to everyone and folk decide if they are coming.
That muster point is OK with me so just outside the marina entrance to the west? I am planning to leave Dunoon at 10:15 or so and should be swinging around the corner towards the marina entrance just before 10:30.

Grasshopper · 25 August 2008, 06:10

I don’t know if this will help your communications on the day but Ribnet apparently has a Group MMSI number, the post I found it on is from 2004 so it will need checking.

RIBnet now has a group MMSI

The number is 023200057

Let's see if anyone can work out how to use it!

John (Admin)

IBWET · 25 August 2008, 20:13

I'll be there with the wife and two saucepan lids.

BruceB · 25 August 2008, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

I don’t know if this will help your communications on the day but Ribnet apparently has a Group MMSI number, the post I found it on is from 2004 so it will need checking.

RIBnet now has a group MMSI

The number is 023200057

Let's see if anyone can work out how to use it!

John (Admin)

I haven't even got round to putting the CG in yet never mind a group MMSI.......

speedy · 26 August 2008, 20:58

Sorry moved to correct thread

speedy · 26 August 2008, 21:15

Well at the pontoon outside the SECC there is a beautiful and very large motor cruiser berthed there on a long term basis. No problems yet.

Glasgow gets a bad name for "if you go there you will get your wallets nicked, your motor torched and a knife in the back for good measure" even some Glaswegians are of the same view but let me assure you that as someone that has 6 boats berthed on the Clyde in the city centre just down the river a bit we have not experienced any trouble at all. No one has vandalised or stolen any of our boats Neither has anyone who has berthed at the SECC pontoon. (So far, never say never)

Regarding the Tall Ship Pontoon, we are long term tenants there, we pay for use of the pontoon. We use it every day of the year virtually. That's the position. Sure anyone is welcome to use it we have welcomed MANY visitors to the pontoon.

From what you write I think you have probably been told by Tall Ship management that you will have to raft up. We will have to assist you with that. As mentioned previously we have a very busy weekend with passengers coming and going all day on the pontoon and it will have to be worked out so that we can get about our business withour delays and also so that the visitors can berth without us asking them to move their boats every 5 minutes.

I wouldn't worry about it we have had many visitors over the years and it usually works out fine. The only isssue we have had with visitors is that a few of them have crashed into the rear of our boats and done substantial damage...simply through poor boat handling.

1. Bent outboard engine mounting saddle bracket cost of repair £1700
2. Smashed mariner 90hp engine hood ...cost of new hood £1100
3. 1 Smashed Honda 130hp engine hood and cowling cost of repair £2190

All of the above repairs I paid for myself but that won't be happening again.

This is why it obviously is of benefit to all that it is organised in such a way as to make berthing as easy as possible for all concerned. In any case there will be a couple of my lads on the pontoon all day to assist.

BruceB · 27 August 2008, 07:10

As someone who lived in Glasgow most of my life, and not in the "nice" parts either, I would say I feel much less safe there than in Oban.
However its all relative, I feel considerably less safe in places like Birmingham and London. I would go to say even that the further south I travel the less "safe" I feel from random attack and theft. Bear in mind this is a personal opinion rather than stating fact before objecting about your town!
On the pontoon I was told as you say we would need to raft, obviously this will depend on just how many folk are coming as it more than three of four come we will need to go elsewhere just for practical purposes.
I would say that I don't intend to ram your boats and I don't suppose anybody else does? I would also have thought it fairly hard to bend a saddle with a RIB unless you sunk the RIB but hitting it at full speed? What sort of boats did all that damage? and how? Surely coming alongside should be easy given that there is a relatively strong current along the pontoon length?
I would imagine we would be there for long, in fact if you PM me a phone number we can chat about how we can work out the least inconvenient way to do this.

speedy · 27 August 2008, 10:48

Hi BruceB believe me when a 5.4 metre Northcraft on its berth is rammed in the rear by a very large Redbay cabin RIB attempting to park up it does a lot of damage, the result was a boat that constantly wanted to turn to port!

I will not say who done it on here as you would be very surprised! I will tell you when I see you.

Unfortunately it has happened 2 often as the pontoon is not that long. You may find this hard to believe but a lot of people are not very good at berthing boats. We generally hide our boats away somewhere when it gets busy but that weekend we are busy too.

Our favourite mishap is people tying their boats up and them ending up on top of our engine hoods. I dunno about you but if i berth in a marina or anywhere else I use springs and give the boat a good ol tug one way and the other to make sure that if there is any wash or wind that my boat does not end up on top of someone elses.

The hardest part to accept is that when people do this they seem to think not a lot of it whereas if it was say their shiny new car that was parked upon they would go berserk. Im too soft you see!

Anyway theres no real problems, as I say we get loads of visitors and as long as a bit of thought goes into the berthing it works out well.

tinker · 27 August 2008, 13:22

I have worked in Motherwell, Greenock and Gourock and a few other places around the Glasgow area. Never had a problem in the day apart from the usual anti English feeling from a minority of small minded people, however once the night arrived it did get a bit lively, plenty of drinking on the street's and gangs of neds' stone throwing mixed with a few fights between drunks.
Felt safe (in the day) but coming from a big city, Birmingham, perhaps you would expect that.
Pre-concieved ideas on areas are often wrong, even the nice ones.

PS for a sample of Glasgow watch 'Still Game', classic Scottish comedy

Bigmuz7 · 29 August 2008, 21:22

Theres a big drilling rig tied up next to the casino atm last time I was over the Kingston, maybe we could tie up to that

BruceB · 29 August 2008, 21:59

I am not really worried about it at the moment, depending on numbers at the beginning of the week I will make arrangements to get us all a berth. With just a few the preferred berth is the tall ship but I have contact names and numbers for the owners of both the SECC and the Braehead pontoons. I will put up a message probably tuesday and PM the known attendees to get names and numbers so at least we have some contactability on the day via phone and radio in case of delays etc. I will also need to have some idea of boat details in case estuary tower asks at the reporting points.
I have two more boats also possibly coming from Oban, will know by around Tuesday but I suspect most folk are hedging their bets until the weather situation becomes more clear.
Unless it is really howling that day we are definitely on, rain or shine..........

Bigmuz7 · 29 August 2008, 22:49

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Originally Posted by BruceB

but I suspect most folk are hedging their bets until the weather situation becomes more clear.

Agreed .. its usually the case .. I'm somewhat

on that one but somewhat

with it as well .. fingers crossed

Pinto · 30 August 2008, 10:58

Hi

Count us in - we will be heading up from Largs Marina.

Anyone any ideas for fuel along the way?

Viviene

BruceB · 30 August 2008, 11:33

Can't think of anywhere offhand other than finding a petrol station near the river. I think everyone so far was intending to do it all in one hop.
What range do you have?

dougcrock · 30 August 2008, 14:29

morrison petrol station across road from tugs harbour (is it east india dock) greenock

K&S · 31 August 2008, 19:12

Hi, we will be there, fingers firmly crossed for sun.
We will be launching @ Largs Yacht Haven, time still to be calculated.
Looking forward to it.

Kim & Susan

PINTO – Have sent you a PM re: fuel

BRUCE B – Have sent you a PM with contact details

Bigmuz7 · 31 August 2008, 20:11

Well the drilling rig I was thinking of tying up to,.. is now in the middle of the river

so that's that one out of the equation.

Whats the vibe for when we get to the top of the river , anyone got any suggestions ? The Casino aint open

where do we all want to trot to, in full RIB gear ? A beer and a sandwich would go down well