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Old 12 December 2009, 13:07   #21
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We are up for it as we are coming over again for the annual invasion of Alderney from the Isle of Wight bringing more Mobos next year and anyone else who would like to join us.We plan to send two days with you and will whizz around in the tender should be fun and after this years warm welcome how could we not come back.
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I was discussing Alderney with my other half yesterday, If I stick some inflatable fenders on the gunwales am I classed as a rib??
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A great idea - I have the perfect 4 m - with a 50 Yam - (but a 4 stroke). Next problem - how do I get it to Alderney without either scary myself senseless going by water , or killing the bank account going on a ferry !

So far I have managed about 20 miles on 10 litres. Like Tony in the other boat I'd get er 3.5 minutes at about 60mph gives me - oh er 3.5 miles . How big is the island again ?
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Thanks all for the really positive feedback.

The current favourite suggestion locally, so as to include as many boats as possible, is to make the fuel allowed 16 Liters.

PS Tim, can you take me off your email's spam filter please?
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Or.... Guinness power, place a warm can in the drive and it extracts all of the heat from said can. Remove can and dispose of sensibly, repeat until destination.
I've been messing around with the physics of the Guinness Drive for some time now. The general thermodynamics are tricky but nothing like as tricky as containing the fuel (it's a bit like Fusion in that respect). Many's the night I spent in the shed, I mean Lab, hoping to give birth to a solution, only to wake to a litter of empty cans...

Below is a photograph of testing conducted under carefully controlled conditions in Iceland. Ambient temperatures were circa 4 degrees Centigrade and all of the latent heat in the Guinness was transferred to the water in ten minutes. Following extensive testing of the Guinness, Iceland was steaming and so was I. However the results are not conclusive and more testing is needed.
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The general thermodynamics are tricky but nothing like as tricky as containing the fuel...
Our own extensive research reflects your findings. Guinness is an exceptional thermal reservoir, with amazing properties that benefit from cooling. But as you say the storage is paramount, we tried at one point encasing the fluid in a very substantial sphere; alas it still found a way out once it reached optimum thermal condition.

The secret seems to be having a very large reserve of Guinness, that way the heat can be extracted quickly and effectively.
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Thanks all for the really positive feedback.

The current favourite suggestion locally, so as to include as many boats as possible, is to make the fuel allowed 16 Liters.

PS Tim, can you take me off your email's spam filter please?
Should be off now
Sorry mate thought you had gone quiet.
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We are up for it as we are coming over again for the annual invasion of Alderney from the Isle of Wight bringing more Mobos next year and anyone else who would like to join us. We plan to send two days with you and will whizz around in the tender should be fun...
After the August camping visit this year I spoke to some guys who have a hostel, if this challenge looks like a goer we will probably see if we can get that as a base camp - there is a nice anchorage adjacent too.

Unless of course you lot are too posh for cheap accommodation? In which case I can see if the Harbour Lights can do us a package.
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After the August camping visit this year I spoke to some guys who have a hostel, if this challenge looks like a goer we will probably see if we can get that as a base camp - there is a nice anchorage adjacent too.

Unless of course you lot are too posh for cheap accommodation? In which case I can see if the Harbour Lights can do us a package.
Will be sleeping on the Motor Boat but good to have some options for the ribs and jetskiers that want to come

How about a BBQ this time round on the beach say a tenner a head should buy alot of burgers and stuff .
Merry Christmas Mate
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Just done a little exercise on Mapsource, and I reckon taking the most direct route and inshore passages would make it about 10 nm, whereas keeping outside of all rocks only adds 1.4 miles. To be honest, I think I'd just blat round the outside as fast as poss, and be first to the bar. Should do it comfortably on 16 litres of Super U/L
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Just done a little exercise on Mapsource, and I reckon taking the most direct route and inshore passages would make it about 10 nm, whereas keeping outside of all rocks only adds 1.4 miles. To be honest, I think I'd just blat round the outside as fast as poss, and be first to the bar. Should do it comfortably on 16 litres of Super U/L
Nice work K!

I made the inside track 10 too, but reckon the long route is a bit longer.

Do not forget the big prize is for having some of the 16 left when you get back.
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Do not forget the big prize is for having some of the 16 left when you get back.
In that case, I'll get someone to wait at the Brimtides with a jerry can, to top up my supply
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In that case, I'll get someone to wait at the Brimtides with a jerry can, to top up my supply
You Jersey lot are so sneaky! You come to a crime-free island with your big-island ways.

Cheating will only get you marooned on Burhou with the wildlife trust girls.
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Well, in that case.....

Hmmm on second thoughts, isn't that why I left the island in the first place? Being marooned on the main rock with the local wildlife was bad enough!

And anyway, what are you doing on Ribnet. Shouldn't you be powerwashing a CI 32?
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And anyway, what are you doing on Ribnet. Shouldn't you be powerwashing a CI 32?
I am, well that is to say that Mel is. A birthday treat for her.

I have a tipsy four-stroke that needs rebuilding....
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Great idea - let us know more!

Interesting idea to do a trophy insipred by artefacts from the Alderney Elizabethan Wreck. Let us know if there is anything you want - have you seen the replica pan weights? - you might want to offer these as prizes in some way: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=190358714410

Good luck with the event though!
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Interesting idea to do a trophy insipred by artefacts from the Alderney Elizabethan Wreck.
Hello Mr Sauce

Yes indeed we have seen the pan weights, might well be worth inclusion.
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Will be sleeping on the Motor Boat but good to have some options for the ribs and jetskiers that want to come

How about a BBQ this time round on the beach say a tenner a head should buy alot of burgers and stuff.
Sounds good

Do we want to combine the Second Annual Alderney Floptilla with the Cannonball Challenge? I was thinking of the second May bank holiday for the latter.
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Sounds good

Do we want to combine the Second Annual Alderney Floptilla with the Cannonball Challenge? I was thinking of the second May bank holiday for the latter.
Either May B-H, that would make it a nice & easy long weekend.
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I have started putting the details together and a web page.
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