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Old 21 December 2002, 14:33   #31
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Splodge, the answer is that tubes generate drag. On a racing boat that matters, but back in the real world and at slower speeds ie cruising, then the advantage of superb sea keeping in a stable boat has much merit. Which would you choose to cross the channel an 18 ft Ring or the Chinook RC18 Rib that was derived from it. For me its the Rib, a momentary loss of attention and the rib just carries on, in a power boat ? hmm

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Old 21 December 2002, 14:34   #32
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May be I exadurated a bit.
The UK is nice too. From the Hamble I have sailed to many places in the UK i.e. Alderney, Le Havre, Bilbao, Witsand Bay, Plymouth, etc and I always had a good time. However, it was always the damn weather that kept us in.
I said it before if it was not for the unpredictable weather UK would have been a VERY NICE place to go cruising.
However, all depends on the company you have. If the compnay is right you can go anywhere and have good time.

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You've got us all wrong! This is a lively discussion, and although lively discussions have a habit of becoming quite heated round here, they don't get nasty. Often you will recieve some quite blunt replies from some members, but in the long run these are generally for the better, as in some ways they can be making an important note on safety or other important issue. Pay attention to what is said, and read up on this stuff. Debate by all means, just make sure it stays clean and civilised (unlike some of the other forums out there).

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Old 21 December 2002, 14:39   #34
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For sale, 7 metre falcon, in need of slight repair, complete with 115 hp mercury. Owner too scared to venture out on water having upset the entire rib world!
I thought that it was a Scorpion!! LOLOL
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Matt, well said and I concur.

Now Manos, whats this rubbish about not fitting Stainless Steel fuel tanks. Couldn't think of a more suitable material for fuel tanks, saying that I may fit plastic underdeck tanks in my Diesel Pacific because the are cheaper and will be permanently glassed in. What it coms down to is cost, if a local S/S fabricator can match the plastic tank price then they will be S/S.

For Petrol Ribs Stainless Steel is ideal, and underdeck saves space keeps the weight low down and the tanks secure. How else do you get the range we want from 20 l red plastic tanks ?

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When you say tube failures get discussed a lot on this forum, is it fair to asume the thing you claim to be the making of the ribs ability, is also it's big weakness?

With ref to the s/s tanks I agree with manos, s/s has terrible trouble with work hardening fatigue and cracks! any tank made of s/s should be kept well away from a high speed boat with high shock loading! unless you like a bilg full of fuel!
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Manos,

Very well put. I think that as I said before everyone is different and enjoy different things, that is called choice. Personally I don't want to camp out at night, that's my choice. I have nothing to prove either to myself or others, I have risen above trying to prove I am better than others. I have been through real life experiences (including war) that most people will never experience or know about. I have done that for a living and have been there, seen it, done it and 'worn out the T-shirt' as Alan P put it. I am also aware that there are others out there still doing the job I did and perhaps more knowledgable than me.

What I have found is that when you reach a certain level you can become bitter and grumpy, there are no more challenges in life and everyone else as far as you are concerned knows very little, and are just dirt e.g. how dare they question you, you know everything (that kind of thing). This is a dangerous position to be in, you can become unpopular and unhappy with your life I know, I have experienced that, and I am correcting my ways. I must say that since I have faced up to myself, I have become a nicer person, I enjoy using my experiences to help and ecourage others

You do notice however that some people try to portray a front to cover for other inadequencies, or what they feel is an inadequency, whether it be height, weight, lack of a degree e.t.c. If these people were all they were meant to be, then they would be solid as a rock, confident and mentors to the less proficient. I am lucky that I can see right through these people with my life experiences, they do not frighten me one bit, I know who I am. I guess the confidence I have, comes from really knowing how little of life they really know. Some people can become so tranfixed with a project or a particlar cause that they don't care less about anything or anybody else, best let them get on with their sad lonely false lives. The time will come for these people one day when they are exposed as shallow, they will then feel lonely and angry, and realise in the whole aspect of the globe and what else is going on, they are nothing and have nothing. People like this use others for their own ends, when that dries up they realise they are nothing, it's too late then!

Dirk, you have made some points and have every right to make them. You will find that you will get different opinions on here, I am pretty new myself, there is some banter, which is healthy and fun. You will work out what is what and who is who, but there are enough good people here to help with most things. The confident real people IMHO will be helpful, discuss things, offer advice and be there when the 'wheel comes off', and you need help.

People fought for us to be free, enjoy it, and help others less able to enjoy it.

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I think now you know why, just got off my soap box

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Possibly, tubes are pretty robust but harbours locks and marina pontoons do take a toll. However we still see sibs out as dive boats that are aproaching a couple of decades in age. Not bad me thinks. Thankfully damage is normally a DIY job if its hyperlon, if its pvc oh, err, um, best flog it quick.

So what material would you choose for a petrol rib fuel tank ?

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Pete WELL SAID as always!! Very nicely put and couldn't agree more with what you say!!
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