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Old 05 February 2013, 16:43   #41
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Or maybe a tax on your tell tale to see how much water you pump!! Joking. I'm up for better qualifications. Surprises me how often you see people with clearly no idea. That's why I cruise in the dark.
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Old 05 February 2013, 18:08   #42
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No, no, no... and for the record no!

This will be an administrative red tape exercise. The government can hardly fund our existing coastguard network, so any money raised from such an ill conceived scheme (however well intentioned) would simply be wasted.

Rant over!
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ok - who dared you Whisper to do this, I hope the bet was worth it !

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ok - who dared you Whisper to do this, I hope the bet was worth it !

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No one dared me to do anything, the original question was:

Do you think all water craft should have an annual safety check with a pass or fail like a car MOT?

It's safety question like any other, isn't it?
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whisper started it... ...is this not the same guy who seems to buy and sell a new boat every week... would he not be permenantly living at the MOT center?
And I didn't expect a personal attack either sugesting the above
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No one dared me to do anything, the original question was:

Do you think all water craft should have an annual safety check with a pass or fail like a car MOT?

It's safety question like any other, isn't it?
to answer your First Question is No!

Reasons as most have specified,

education not legislation

Even with MOT's you still will have break downs , Green Flag, AA & RAC would been out of business

And currently I think it costs 2500 to code boat with all the coding gear.

Plently of safe guards in place for commercial boats - leisure boats let them be!

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But a free RNLI safety check is seen as a good thing?
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But a free RNLI safety check is seen as a good thing?
yes - you don't pass or fail a safety check, you have a talk with an experience person who does not judge you. and you don't need to do get it either

As I said education not legislation


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Over here we need to be licensed to drive a powerboat capable of 10+ knots. But the test is a joke and there is no further education needed i.e. once you have one its for life basically unless you want to go commercial.

Trailers have to be registered, but there is no roadworthy. IMHO it's a tad silly as trailers tend to be neglected (not just boat trailers) and affect other road users when they break down / wheel comes off due to bad bearings/hubs etc.

Boats have to be registered, but again there is no check that they are seaworthy. You can be pulled over on the water for a spot safety gear check but it's pretty infrequent.

With the number of calls over the VHF in holiday periods with boats breaking down, running out of fuel, idiots just doing dumb things, not having life jackets etc it amazes me we don't have some form of annual inspection that forms part of the registration renewal process.

It happens for cars, no reason it should not happen for boats & their trailers.

FYI we do have an annual safety inspection for our yacht, but it's club based and purely so we are allowed to race in club events. Yes it's a PITA, and takes up a bit of time, but at least we & our crew know all the proper gear is there and operational should it be needed.
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Even as someone who would do well out of this the answer is no

Darwins law i.e. stupid people have a right to be stupid and if the die being stupid they will live for ever on a few websites:

all the red tape: yee gods man, my life would be hell, cars dont sink when they break down so can you imagine how may forms we would need to fill in to keep the government happy about what we have done and why it was done and who checked it etc.

what about advisories? how would these work

how many people would it put off boating?

I also feel we have to many rules. what ever happened to common sense and taking responsibility for your actions?

If you want to get your boat checked to any level you can do that today so why force people to do it?

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