Idiots...

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Some people shouldn't be allowed to own a boat. Check out the 2nd picture. Boat planing, kid STANDING on the sea, NO lifejacket in sight in any picture

Then the female. Look's like that's a baby holder thing attached to her, if she goes in, baby is going with her (Presuming there's a baby in there)

[nikster]

ok - lets look at this in the real light of day - fareham creek, no chop, good weather, excellent visibility..... the chances and historical data shows you have more chance of winning the lottery than coming a cropper in a rib in fareham creek in good weather......

i bet you a pound a pinch of sh$t that the reason the guy did not go out of the harbour was because he had young kids on board and a new born.....so his decision to go for a pootle up fareham creek, was a good one based on the passengers he had on board...

lets not go over the top - when you clearly have no knowledge of the skipper, his abilities, his passengers abilities or the risk involved in such a bland low risk outing - then i dont think it is appropriate to lambast someone...based on what you see in some pictures......

no doubt you file a passage plan, make everyone wear drysuits, and have epirbs fitted to everyone, and make endless calls on 16 just to make sure you dont get out of radio range............

keep it real......lets no lose the fun of what the ribs are meant to bring.....
most skippers are fairly good at assesing the risk based on the conditions and route to be taken....

[codprawn]

Remember in Ireland wearing lifejackets is now the law - that is what makes people think like this.

I saw a kid the other day riding a bike without a helmet - some busybody actually went over and told off his parents.

Strangely I managed to survive childhood without either lifejackets or helmets - and I even managed to walk to school and cross the road by myself!!!

[mccabe]

Yes, I would have to agree with Alt.A child has no voice than the adult protecting him or her.I feel that a child should have a PDF without exception because accidents do happen.Is there any logic in disagreeing with that??

[Kip]

[QUOTE=codprawn;220415]
Strangely I managed to survive childhood .....


there is no justice in the world.

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by mccabe

Yes, I would have to agree with Alt.A child has no voice than the adult protecting him or her.I feel that a child should have a PDF without exception because accidents do happen.Is there any logic in disagreeing with that??

How many kids do you see wearing a lifejacket on the beach - or when they are swimming in the water???

[alt]

I bet if that kid drowned, you'd probably be the first to say "He wasn't wearing a lifejacket"

Lifejackets save lives, especially children. No way that kid could swim well, he's too small. Imagine if he DID fall overboard (for whatever reason), the wake from the rib alone would probably drown him

As codprawn said, lifejackets are law now here in Ireland, but i've always worn one even before it was law

Originally Posted by nikster

ok - lets look at this in the real light of day - fareham creek, no chop, good weather, excellent visibility..... the chances and historical data shows you have more chance of winning the lottery than coming a cropper in a rib in fareham creek in good weather......

i bet you a pound a pinch of sh$t that the reason the guy did not go out of the harbour was because he had young kids on board and a new born.....so his decision to go for a pootle up fareham creek, was a good one based on the passengers he had on board...

lets not go over the top - when you clearly have no knowledge of the skipper, his abilities, his passengers abilities or the risk involved in such a bland low risk outing - then i dont think it is appropriate to lambast someone...based on what you see in some pictures......

no doubt you file a passage plan, make everyone wear drysuits, and have epirbs fitted to everyone, and make endless calls on 16 just to make sure you dont get out of radio range............

keep it real......lets no lose the fun of what the ribs are meant to bring.....
most skippers are fairly good at assesing the risk based on the conditions and route to be taken....

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by nikster

no doubt you file a passage plan, make everyone wear drysuits, and have epirbs fitted to everyone, and make endless calls on 16 just to make sure you dont get out of radio range............

keep it real......lets no lose the fun of what the ribs are meant to bring.....
most skippers are fairly good at assesing the risk based on the conditions and route to be taken....

Er, A lifejacket or PFD or whatever you want to call it costs 30 quid for a cheap one. Its just common sense to wear one whilst at sea and I can't see any excuse for not doing so. Especially in the case of a very young child.

I don't mean to harp on about safety but life jackets are pretty much the minimum you should wear on a small boat. If the worst does happen it will give the boats skipper enough time to turn around and drag somebody out of the water before they go under. I don't know Fareham creek but I should imagine its deep enough to lose somebody once they are under the water.

Better to be safe than sorry. Especially if the tragedy could have been avoided following some simple rules.

[alt]

Originally Posted by nikster

lets not go over the top - when you clearly have no knowledge of the skipper, his abilities, his passengers abilities or the risk involved in such a bland low risk outing - then i dont think it is appropriate to lambast someone...based on what you see in some pictures......

I'm sorry, but taking a picture, while on the plane, and a young kid STANDING on a seat who could easily lose balance and fall overboard.... I don't NEED to question the skippers abilities. My mind is made up.

Christ, i'd tell an adult to cop on and not stand on a SEAT while on the plane, nevermind a kid

Originally Posted by nikster

keep it real......lets no lose the fun of what the ribs are meant to bring.....

I am keeping it real. Taking 30 seconds and a few quid to put a PFD on a kid is NOT taking away from the fun

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by alt

I don't NEED to question the skippers abilities.

Of course he'll be an expert with hundreds of hours experience !!!!!