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Old 27 September 2007, 08:37   #41
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Originally Posted by John Kennett View Post
Or do you not like people having opinions that you don't agree with?

That's the policy I adopt with Boatmad.

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Old 27 September 2007, 10:06   #42
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Originally Posted by genoa View Post
No wonder the country is in a mess!!
Hey, don't blame it on me! I can only fork up one country at a time and I haven't gotten around to yours yet

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Old 27 September 2007, 15:58   #43
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I'm getting bored with how many posts keep getting deleted
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Old 27 September 2007, 16:28   #44
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Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller View Post
Just for the record, I reckon the sharp end is the most dangerous place to be in any fast boat travelling over a bumpy surface. This is why I hate Bowriders so much, you wouldn't get me in one one of those for love, nor money (OK, maybe an hour with Mariah Carey would be worth the risk)

The witch hunt thing is a little scarey.

My point was really that too many people on here are pre-occupied with what other people are up to, and feel it's their job to expose them, whilst at the same time prove how safety concious they are (read, 'good upright sensible citizens') A bit of an obsession I can't quite grasp. They're probably all real busy body neighbours too!

PS. from the above statement, it sounds like you think WOT would have been the right speed tpo approach the wake with the child in the bow!

Blimey. I have to agree with most of the above. I wont have my kids or anyone else travelling forward of midships. I've witnessed bikini clad g/f's getting all but slung out of bowriders.
The kid should've been wearing a lifejacket.
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Old 27 September 2007, 16:37   #45
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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7 View Post
I'm getting bored with how many posts keep getting deleted
They're no great loss. I'll delete any more similar ones too if necessary!

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Old 27 September 2007, 16:51   #46
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If you are out on a boat then put a PFD or lifejacket on. I don't see the problem.

Young children do not understand the full danger of not using a PFD. Allot of older children think they are indestructible so it is up to adults to ensure children put a PFD on.
As for us adults using them or not, well that would be the individuals choice after accessing the risk. What about the people that die as a direct result of not wearing one leave behind.

The following is from a US site, but is probable much the same on percentages over here.

The 750 fatalities reverse a downward trend and are at their highest level since 1998 when 815 fatalities were reported.

Seventy percent of all fatal boating accident victims drowned (524 out of 750).
Nearly 85% of the victims who drowned were not wearing their personal flotation device (PFD or lifejacket). Overall, fatal accident data show approximately 440 lives could have been saved last year if boaters had worn their lifejackets.

The most reported types of accidents are collisions with other vessels. However,
capsizing and falls overboard are the most reported types of fatal accidents and account for over half (56%) of all boating fatalities.
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Old 27 September 2007, 18:05   #47
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42 people died by drowning in the bath

22 people died in boating accidents

34 died when swimming - or trying to

Seems to me you would be better off wearing a PFD in the bath!!!
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Old 27 September 2007, 19:19   #48
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Originally Posted by codprawn View Post
How many kids do you see wearing a lifejacket on the beach - or when they are swimming in the water???
So do kids in Wales swim at +20 knots???
Girls like RIBs too!
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Old 27 September 2007, 19:44   #49
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What difference does that make? Deaths from drowning in boating accidents is only a very small part of the total - your child is far more likely to die from drowning well away from boats - are you going to get them to wear a lifejacket all day long?
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Old 27 September 2007, 20:07   #50
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