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Old 17 October 2005, 11:34   #31
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A chain is only as good as the object it's attached to. Most marina's only have cleats on the pontoons, and these can be easily unbolted.. Failing that, if the chain is attached around an "A" frame, it would be simple enough to cut a notch out to release the chain.. If someone is nicking a rib/boat, they aren't gonna be that worried about damaging it when removing the chain..
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Old 17 October 2005, 11:38   #32
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C02 freeze spray and a hammer will deal with it anyway....
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Old 17 October 2005, 11:39   #33
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Look harder....DeWalt, Bosch. Makita....
Cheap ones I was on about!!! Still according to Des they wouldn't work anyway....
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Old 17 October 2005, 11:40   #34
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C02 freeze spray and a hammer will deal with it anyway....
You need to go a lot colder than that!!! Couple of years ago thieves in Port Talbot steel works were using liquid nitrogen!!!
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Old 17 October 2005, 11:56   #35
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Cheap ones I was on about!!! Still according to Des they wouldn't work anyway....

You'll find our Chinese friends make plenty of cheap *Ahem* copies for you....

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You need to go a lot colder than that!!! Couple of years ago thieves in Port Talbot steel works were using liquid nitrogen!!!
Next time you have a moment in your hectic life try using a tin of lighter fuel and a hammer on a padlock....
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Old 17 October 2005, 12:09   #36
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Next time you have a moment in your hectic life try using a tin of lighter fuel and a hammer on a padlock....
What the hell will that do???

I suppose heating a chain or padlock with a blow torch will destroy the hardening - then a hacksaw would work???
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When I've spoken to people about securing boats, the general consesus has been that it is impossible to ever prevent your boat being stolen. All you can do is:

a) Slow any thief down - the idea being that the longer they have to spend getting past your security the more likely they are to either be noticed, or get jittery and leave.

b) Make stealing your boat harder/less attractive than stealing the one next to it! Scuff up outboard covers, have some nice pretty high visbility security, and hope they don't even bother.

There is no security method that is absolutely foolproof and can't be broken, so go for the best, and the most visible you can afford. There's also a fine line between not enough security, and so much security it takes you 2 hours to get your boat on the water!

The most humourous hidden security device I've seen is where a boat had 2 highly visible chains locking it to a fence, and a wheelclamp. They were clearly visible. What wasn't, was the chain connected to the trailer underneath the boat, onto an eyebolt set very firmly into some concrete. The chain was pretty invisible due to grass and such, and was about 3metres long. The idea was that someone got past the other security, hitched the trailer to their car, had 3 metres to build up speed, then totally buggered their towbar/the trailer. The chain used was about 2cm thick toughened chain, shackled to the eyebolt, and shackled round as much of the trailer as was possible.
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What the hell will that do???

I suppose heating a chain or padlock with a blow torch will destroy the hardening - then a hacksaw would work???

Heating??
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There is no security method that is absolutely foolproof
Oh yes there is....
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Make yer boat invisble.... that'll keep the buggers away.... if you can't find it they sure as feck' can't steal it....
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Oh yes there is....
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Make yer boat invisble.... that'll keep the buggers away.... if you can't find it they sure as feck' can't steal it....
And then... you can never use it!

(Like the outside the box thinking though.)
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