Advice please - Page 2

Jonny Fuller · 30 August 2005, 20:03

You need to stop pussey footing around!

What is your company name, and designer? did you buy and now own the rights to your rib design?

And most importantly, who is the splasher?

This is a subject that most here know I'm VERY pationate about.

As for the comment that anyone capable of splashing, is capable of their own creations, that is utter bollix, at least in most cases.

make no mistake, if what you are saying is true, these people are common thieves! you can re-name it what you like, but that's the crux of it.

a few years ago, their workshop would probably burn down by accident.

domino · 30 August 2005, 20:16

Johnny

My company is v-type, my web address is www.v-type.com my designer is Simon Rogers who until recently held the round britian record in a revenger, i own the mould tools and interlectual property rights to v-type.

The splasher is OLMEC TUBING of Dartmouth, the photos on the website are of the boat they produced and sold to an unsurspecting client.

gavin · 30 August 2005, 20:16

I second that Jonny

joakimhansson · 30 August 2005, 20:17

Help us to not buy a copy

paul tilley · 30 August 2005, 20:17

i tend to agree with mr fuller domino you should reveal your identity ect and confirm whether the name on the console is that of the splasher

domino · 30 August 2005, 20:22

On the console of the boat is the name Olmec, this is the company i can confirm that splashed my hull, i purchased back from Olmec the hull that we supplied to them for tubing, its now in our yard with the flanges cut down and waas used as a plug.

Jizm · 30 August 2005, 20:23

doesn't the guy from olmec post on here?
all sounds a bit naughty to me!

Jimbo · 30 August 2005, 20:27

It all sounds very naughty, and I'm sure that when "the guy from Olmec" reads these posts he will have something to say hopefully.

I would say be very careful, it seems from your posts that you are 100% sure of this, but you want to be careful of any backlash from putting posts like this on a public forum, without first sending him an official letter or similar.

Jonny Fuller · 30 August 2005, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by domino

i purchased back from Olmec the hull that we supplied to them for tubing,

what do you mean? did they buy a hull to complete themselves?

Also, is it just the hull they copied, or is the console yours as well?

domino · 30 August 2005, 20:34

Attached is a photo of the hull i purchased back via a third party, from this you will see the flangles cut of and re-postioned get around the 10% rule, some time ago the guy from olmec called me admitted that he had made a huge mistake and was going to stop and deliver the mould tool to my yard, this however has not happended, after many calls and sms he has assumed that the issue will just go away.

domino · 30 August 2005, 20:36

Yes it would

Jonny Fuller · 30 August 2005, 20:37

I agree with Jimbo, you must be certain of this before it goes too far.

If you are correct, I would imagine that finding work fitting toobs to rib builders bare hulls could become quite a struggle in the future!

domino · 30 August 2005, 20:38

I supplied a hull for them to complete themselves, they used to tube my boats for me then we fell out over a seperate issue, the consoles have not been copied

Jonny Fuller · 30 August 2005, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by domino

Attached is a photo of the hull i purchased back via a third party, from this you will see the flangles cut of and re-postioned get around the 10% rule, some time ago the guy from olmec called me admitted that he had made a huge mistake and was going to stop and deliver the mould tool to my yard, this however has not happended, after many calls and sms he has assumed that the issue will just go away.

As I said...."If you are correct, I would imagine that finding work fitting toobs to rib builders bare hulls could become quite a struggle in the future!"

I'm sure most builders would want to protect their products security.

Matt · 30 August 2005, 20:41

I believe Mike Ring takes a very pragmatic approach, might be worth asking him how he has previously dealt with splashers.

Jonny Fuller · 30 August 2005, 20:43

I think the knowledge of Mikes attitude to thieves is enough alone to prevent the situation arising in the first place.

The thing is, the internet 'could' prevent this type of thing happening in the future, it's becoming harder and harder to keep this type of thing a secret thanks to websites like this!

Hopefully, the time will come when the industry is transparent enough through the tinterweb, that there won't be a market for the counterfeiters cheap substandard products.

domino · 30 August 2005, 20:47

Iam certain, whilst iam sure there will a very feeble excuse, ive touched the hull mould tool at Olmecs place in Dartmouth.

Ive waited along time to gather enough evidence

PeterR · 30 August 2005, 20:55

John Fuller(If you are correct would imagine that finding work fitting toobs to rib builders bare hulls could become quite a sruggle in the future )I believe Olmec has trouble fitting tubes correctly anyway.A company called Coast Line has just had a set of tubes removed that he did.

Jonny Fuller · 30 August 2005, 20:59

Is there any 'baggage' in this deal that isn't obvious?

twood be better to be public knowledge if there were.

domino · 30 August 2005, 21:06

Photos attached

I didnt set out to nail anyone, i just dont want my hull copied