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Old 12 September 2007, 15:04   #11
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*Malthouse dashes off to dispatch one crate of ale to S'ton*

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Old 12 September 2007, 16:58   #12
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Hi,

When I got into SIBs last year, I was looking for something I could fit 2 adults and 3 children, get on the plane, and easily inflate/deflate carry and store.

The ease of use thing means airdeck. Yes, it wobbles a bit going over the chop, but on the plus side, is much more comfortable to sit on. I've heard too many people cursing their wooden floors when trying to fit them to go there. On the whole, I'm quite impressed with how the airdeck copes.

With this many people you need 3.8m; the Quicksilvers only go up to 3.4m, which wasn't big enough for me. After studying the Zodiac range, I settled on the Classic, since although the Futura performance is probably better, that boat weighs 70 kg as against 50kg for the Classic.

Oh, and I couldn't easily carry more than a 15hp 2 stroke. Get along to the boat show and lift some engines. You can stand still holding a 25hp, but could you manhandle it in and out of the shed/car/wherever?

All in all we have a lot of fun on Zebedee. (Even though it's so much less comfortable that the Ribcraft 4.8m we had before...and yes, we're in the process of saving up for a bigger RIB.) For what they are, though, SIBs like this are great.

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PS: To get planing with this load, I had to change the standard 9 inch pitch prop for a 8 inch.
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Old 12 September 2007, 18:26   #13
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The Tohatsu 18hp weighs the same as their 15hp!!!
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Old 12 September 2007, 19:53   #14
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I own a Honwave 3.8m airdeck.
If your talking about putting the SIB "in the boot" ... when I went to pick up the Honwave - still in its box from Honda - I could neither get it in the boot of my car (BMW 3 series) - wouldn't fit.... nor could I single handedly get it onto the back seats...I needed assistance for that. Of course , once inflated, and then deflated again, it doesn't go back as small as it originally did!
Add into that an engine...I started with a 15hp Mariner and upped that to Yamaha 20d. The Mariner I could manage just about, by myself, The Yamaha I can barely manage by myself!
So... I think you need to be considerably downsizing the SIB to fit it and an engine in a family saloon boot (if thats what you have). Doesn't mean it would be any less fun, but I got a trailer pretty quickly as getting the boat in and out of the water speedily was more importnat to me than spending time inflating/deflating/rigging the thing...and unless I changed my car to something enormous, was the only way I could transport the boat!
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Old 13 September 2007, 04:13   #15
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I'm currently running an A3 Sportback, but I've got an A6 Estate on order for delivery in Mid October. I'm guessing a 3.5-3.8 boat and will get swallowed up by that boot?!

On the subject of engines, pretty much decided that it needs to be 2 stroke for the ease of storage and transporting. I've only ever run Yamaha 2 strokes before - are these Tohatsu engines ok? Or are the Yammy's still worth the premium?

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The Tohatsu 18hp weighs the same as their 15hp!!!
Yes but if you are talking 2 stroke then it is 41kg my 15 is 36kg 5kg less & the 4 stroke tohatsu 15 & 18 is 52kg
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I'm currently running an A3 Sportback, but I've got an A6 Estate on order for delivery in Mid October. I'm guessing a 3.5-3.8 boat and will get swallowed up by that boot?!

On the subject of engines, pretty much decided that it needs to be 2 stroke for the ease of storage and transporting. I've only ever run Yamaha 2 strokes before - are these Tohatsu engines ok? Or are the Yammy's still worth the premium?

Al

We managed to get Sixy's 3.4m Zodiac with a wooden floor, a 20hp engine and all the kit into a Rover 418 Saloon so an A6 will carry it all easily.
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Old 13 September 2007, 13:02   #18
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Yes but if you are talking 2 stroke then it is 41kg my 15 is 36kg 5kg less & the 4 stroke tohatsu 15 & 18 is 52kg
Tohatsu's website quotes 37kgs for the 18hp - the same as the 15hp and the 9.9 - obviously the same block.

My suzuki 15hp 4 stroke weighs 47kgs so I could have more power for less weight!!!
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Old 13 September 2007, 13:03   #19
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Hi,

Our last boat, which we had for 4 years, was a Bombard Typhoon 380, with the ply floor, and a Yamaha 15hp 4 stroke.

It has a well defined inflatable keel, like the aerotech described above.

It's a well made boat, tough and good value for money, and very cheap to run. It would still plane with 4 adults, and was stable.

We regularly used it from being stored in the bag, and latterly got a bunk trailer for it, and were very pleased with the performance of the boat.

On one occassion, we did a 50 mile trip.

It might be worth a look.
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Old 13 September 2007, 18:21   #20
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I had the honda 3.8 airdeck with a honda 20 . I chose it because the floor was the highest pressure and the deepest V . It was a great little boat but i wouldn't have wanted a baby in my arms in it in anything over an 18" chop , it felt safe but certainly bounced you about and both arms were needed to hang on .
The honda was I think the lightest 4 stroke 20 and a superb engine 47kg I think . If I bought another i would go for a 25hp 2 stroke because it hardly used any fuel anyway and it could have easily taken the extra power when loaded.
Best thing i ever bought for it was the Bravo Hi pressure pump with the pressure settingon the dial, the only way to get the floor to the right pressure 12psi !unless you have spare hour and big legs and its a must for deflating and storing in a car , well worth the money. although I ended up with it on a trailer as it was so much hassle packing it up every time .
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