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30 January 2012, 17:23
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lifejacket advice needed
Hi,just after a quick bit of advice regarding some recently purchased lifejackets from a large marine shop, the ones they have sent me out are manual ones and the ones I ordered where automatic ones, however on opening one up to send them a picture of it I noticed the date of manufacture is 01/09!
I dont know a great deal about lifejackets but have read they should be inspected yearly, my question is, do they have a shelf life as such?should I return them to the shop and ask for my money back, I am a little concerned about perhaps putting my life and someones elses in jeopardy over something like this, any good advice....
If best reply is to get my money back any good advice on where to purchase from I recently bought another one for a child from another large marine shop aand going to open that one up now and check out the date on it.
Regards
Nick
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30 January 2012, 17:40
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The date issue certainly sounds a concern but more generally if buying for a child (certainly a young one) general consensus is to go for the foam type with permanant buoyancy - don't rely on an auto inflating.
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30 January 2012, 18:42
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As far as I'm aware, if the jacket has been in a showroom or storage in a dry place then the age of it should not matter much. The reason for annual checking is to make sure the cylinder is not corroding and that the firing mechanism has not been affected by moisture. They also do an inflation test to make sure the bladder is not perished and holds air properly. If it is brand new and unopened I personally would not be worried.
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30 January 2012, 18:44
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Three years old is too old to be selling as new stock, unless advertised as such and suitably discounted. I would request me money back and source elsewhere.
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30 January 2012, 18:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NWC100
the ones they have sent me out are manual ones and the ones I ordered where automatic ones
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Uh, I would want what I ordered, automatic ones, which is what we use. Fortunately we were able to walk into our local store on a super deal day "Black Friday" and get them for a good deal, and the dates were only a couple of months old.
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30 January 2012, 19:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbryson75
Three years old is too old to be selling as new stock, unless advertised as such and suitably discounted. I would request me money back and source elsewhere.
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I agree, I would send them back!
Have you spoken to the manufacture of the ones you are after? I have in the past gone direct with two major manufactures and had better prices than I could find.
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30 January 2012, 20:44
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Well, sounds like they need to go back anyway if you have manual not auto as ordered.
Warranty if any offered on lifejackets should be from date of sale not date of manufacture. Having said that, I would think a manufacturer would be interested in any fault developing within normal usage at any stage. More important for autos is that the release cartridge has plenty of time on it - should be 30-36 months.
As above, for younger children definitely go for permanent buoyancy foam type. Although autos are generally reliable, there can be circumstances where they don't go off and you need presence of mind to pull the cord instead.
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30 January 2012, 22:34
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also if there is any lights fitted in them they are going to be short dated too by a few years .
another more important one make sure they are fitted with crutch straps.
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31 January 2012, 15:24
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Are the bobbins in the auto jackets time-limited on the east side of the Atlantic?
USCG mandates replacement of the water soluble bobbin every three years (from date of manufacture of the bobbin, not the lifejacket.) When buying an auto jacket in the US, the bobbin should be replaced (or installed, if not installed) from new stock.
Just something else to think about.
jky
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31 January 2012, 17:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jyasaki
Are the bobbins in the auto jackets time-limited on the east side of the Atlantic?
USCG mandates replacement of the water soluble bobbin every three years (from date of manufacture of the bobbin, not the lifejacket.) When buying an auto jacket in the US, the bobbin should be replaced (or installed, if not installed) from new stock.
Just something else to think about.
jky
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Mandated ???? Here ?????? its a challenge to even get some boats to carry them on board - let alone wear them , as for thinking about if they will work or alot of people even knowing what a bobbin is ( hopefully its what you do when they inflate)......
We love the lack of mandated stuff on this side
(not saying lifejackets should not be up to standard )
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