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Old 15 August 2014, 19:06   #31
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Not sure Simon if this is your first boat. With all your intended guests, have you done any training?. I have found the smaller and easier to live with, the more I use the boat. Too big, too much hassle the more you, friends and family will loose interest.
.. It will be far and away the smallest boat I've owned! I spent many years living afloat on large barges, got a lot of tidal/coastal experience on them too, Thames Estuary, Medway, Trent and Ouse.

But all things considered, a smaller boat may be the way forward.
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Old 15 August 2014, 19:24   #32
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For me the most important thing is getting out on the water and the easier you make it the more you do it. I have had yachts stuck in marinas I rarely used, now i have a sea kayak on the roof of my car I use every week and I am more happy.
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Old 16 August 2014, 07:53   #33
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Lots of folding launching trolleys around, we use one if we take more than 1 sib away with us. I find a trolley easier to use with out Futra because its more balanced.

Heres the one we use (with a home made extension on the bigger boats)

Boat Dinghy Launching Trolleys, Carts, Wheels.
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Old 17 August 2014, 05:41   #34
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Lots of folding launching trolleys around, we use one if we take more than 1 sib away with us. I find a trolley easier to use with out Futra because its more balanced.

Heres the one we use (with a home made extension on the bigger boats)

Boat Dinghy Launching Trolleys, Carts, Wheels.
Thanks for the link, those trolleys look ideal.
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Old 17 August 2014, 11:18   #35
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Thanks for the link, those trolleys look ideal.
No chance of those being adequate for a 4.7m SIB on a rocky or sandy surface. You would need either inflatable rollers like The Gurnard posted, or a trolley with balloon tires (ideally 6 tires of ~50cm diameter) similar to what Peter_C had posted and at least 2 fit people who don't mind exerting themselves.

Six people with camping gear in a 4.7m SIB would be borderline. It would require minimalist gear and food along the lines of what you might carry if you were alpine backpacking.

Also, with 6 people a 30 hp outboard would be miserably inadequate.
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Old 17 August 2014, 11:58   #36
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No chance of those being adequate for a 4.7m SIB on a rocky or sandy surface.
There are in fact two sizes of launching trolleys available with the larger one able to take boats up to 4.9m and 200kg payload. Not cheap but work well if modified with bunks.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400272542098
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150482856520
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There are in fact two sizes of launching trolleys available with the larger one able to take boats up to 4.9m and 200kg payload. Not cheap but work well if modified with bunks.
LARGE Folding Launching Trolley Dinghy inflatable Boat Launch Max 16' Boat 200Kg | eBay
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It would probably be OK on a paved ramp if the SIB motor combo stays under the 200kg weight rating (which is very unlikely with a 4.7m SIB and 40-50hp motor). On an unpaved surface, two small narrow tires would dig in sand and wedge between rocks with that kind of weight.
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There are in fact two sizes of launching trolleys available with the larger one able to take boats up to 4.9m and 200kg payload. Not cheap but work well if modified with bunks.
LARGE Folding Launching Trolley Dinghy inflatable Boat Launch Max 16' Boat 200Kg | eBay
NEW Folding Launching Trolley Dinghy inflatable Boat Rib Pack Away Galvanised | eBay
Those tyres would sink right into soft sand and gravel/shingle. Only good for hardpack and asphalt.

I had too many threads open and am slow...what Prairie Tuber says.
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Old 17 August 2014, 15:28   #39
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Forgive me if I have misread this but getting the boat ready at home and popping it on a trailer for the short trip would take care of transport and by using a slipway, no injuries and fold away when you get home. That would still allow you to store the boat but make life so much easier at the launch site. The trailer could depending on your house layout go round into the garden when not in use.

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We have a big vehicle and are lucky enough to live 200 yards from the estuary. Car carries kit, people walk. Like I said, not keen on leaving it moored. Boats get stolen/borrowed, vandalised a lot here unless you moor them right out on the mud, then you need another dinghy to get to your dinghy. We have a 10ft rowing dinghy that I keep on the estuary. I keep that looking as shitty as possible to put off would be thieves but it still gets 'borrowed' from time to time, then I have to spend the morning driving around all the usual slipways down the Torridge trying to find it. I have no driveway, but I do have a nice workshop where I can store things and work on them in the dry. So a SIB suits me fine. The only other craft that would foot the bill is a 14ft Porta-Bote and I am tempted by that TBH, if I can find one.

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..So I checked on our rowing dinghy yesterday, and surprise surprise it had vanished... A quick drive around and I found it tied up a quarter of a mile downstream on the mud. Yet again someone has basically decided to 'borrow' it. Now I have to pull a favour and waste an evening retrieving it by boat from the mudflats. Can you imagine watching a car parked in your street for a few months and then deciding to 'borrow' it because you haven't seen it move? Some people have a weird mindset is all I can say.
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