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Old 09 October 2008, 10:05   #1
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Not a happy ruddin ribber!

OK,

Need the esteemed Avon 5.4m and yammie boys assistance here.

How much does an Avon 5.4m hull and standard console weigh, no a-frame attached but with standard tubes.

Secondly, how much does a yammie 70hp 2 stroke weigh?

If ye can answer me these questions three.... erm, i mean two

I'd be chuffed to bits as am about to go off on one at a certain well known establishment that may have just (wrongly) cost me some reddies.
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The engine is 105kgs if it's a 3 cylinder

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard.../10/specs.aspx

Is this the right Avon?

http://www.avon-workboats.com/page/sr54n1

If so about 320-350kg.
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OK,

Secondly, how much does a yammie 70hp 2 stroke weigh?
105 kg for autolube version with the electric tilt en trim (70b) if I remember correctly.
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Old 09 October 2008, 10:20   #4
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http://www.avon-workboats.com has the hull spec's

As for the Yam,

http://www.yamaha-motor.com.au/marin...p?therange=m2s

has to be close......
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Ideal lads,

Much appreciated the long arm of the law threatened a 60.00 fine and 6 points if it weighed more than 750 kg with trailer as the trailer was not fitted with brakes.

They then proceed to allow it to be put on a low bed truck and delivered to final destination but they wont pay the bill.

Just need to know my rights before a few questions are asked.
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I guess it will come down to putting it on some scales to get a real life answer for the weight as experiance ahs shown me that over time things do get heavier & heavier . This is mostly based on aircraft weights which when weighed a few years ago are fine , but after a few tweaks & fixes rapidly become heavier.

I assume the reason they stopped you was that they considered you to be over weight & its easy to make a quick buck, hard to argue, and you probably will pay the 60 !
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Ideal lads,

Much appreciated the long arm of the law threatened a 60.00 fine and 6 points if it weighed more than 750 kg with trailer as the trailer was not fitted with brakes.

They then proceed to allow it to be put on a low bed truck and delivered to final destination but they wont pay the bill.

Just need to know my rights before a few questions are asked.
But you could be borderline... e.g.

Boat... ...350kg
Battery, anchor, other kit... ...50kg
Fuel... ...50kg
trailer... ...150kg
Engine... ...105kg

TOTAL ...705kg

All assuming its dry and not carrying much gear.

But I suspect the police position will be that it is your responsibility to know the law, and keep your trailer within the limit. So if you were confident that you were legal you would have continued your journey. If they were confident you were not they would have weighed it and then either let you go about your business or fined you.
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But you could be borderline... e.g.

Boat... ...350kg
Battery, anchor, other kit... ...50kg
Fuel... ...50kg
trailer... ...150kg
Engine... ...105kg

TOTAL ...705kg

All assuming its dry and not carrying much gear.

But I suspect the police position will be that it is your responsibility to know the law, and keep your trailer within the limit. So if you were confident that you were legal you would have continued your journey. If they were confident you were not they would have weighed it and then either let you go about your business or fined you.
Agreed, but vessel was on the way back from having the hull repainted, No batteries or kit on board and no fuel (or tank for that matter ).

The guy towing was confident with it being less than 750kg but the PC was most adament that the only way he was going to proceed was on the back of a truck.

It wont cost too much, just a bit narked that's all.
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It all depends on trailer weight. If you are under the weight I would make a fuss and put in a bill for your expenses. They DO pay if you keep on at them!!!
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Agreed, but vessel was on the way back from having the hull repainted, No batteries or kit on board and no fuel (or tank for that matter ).

The guy towing was confident with it being less than 750kg but the PC was most adament that the only way he was going to proceed was on the back of a truck.

It wont cost too much, just a bit narked that's all.
Let me get this right. A non ministry copper stopped you and refused to allow it to move without weighing it?

It's below 750kg unless you've got a ridiculously heavy trailer. Even if it was on my heavy braked dixon-bate trailer it's borderline.

I'd be writing letters to the Chief Constable by now. Get it down to a public weighbridge pronto.
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