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Old 29 March 2006, 06:02   #51
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MadMat: Yes there are two massive signs on this road with 30mph on them. He had just joined the road so missed them. Fair enough there are some regular sized 30mph signs on the road. He admits he wasn't paying enough attention to the road. He assumed (very stupidly) that being a dual carriageway (not a small road through a built up area) that the limit was higher than 30. At the time he was doing about 50mph.

Nasher: He did not "steam" past loads of other cars. From memory the road was pretty much deserted. This was at 10.01 in the morning and the weather was good. I don't think making a mistake and getting a speeding ticket means that he should not be on the road.

Codders: I agree with you about this speed limit being there to catch more people. I realise speed limits are there for a reason, but I can't can't see the point in this one. As Jimbo said this is a large road, with a central reservation and is not surrounded by loads of houses. If a child runs into this road then what the hell was it doing playing near a dual caraigeway.

Richard: Bob is a child, that is why is was driving through Southampton. Becasue he's young he was probably drunk as well, and wasn't wearing a seatbelt

Attached is a photo. If I recall the camera is somewhere near the red circle. Judge for your self....
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Old 29 March 2006, 06:08   #52
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Doesn't look like a dual carriageway to me?
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Old 29 March 2006, 06:14   #53
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I think it is. I might possibly have got the wrong bit of road. Jimbo should know.....
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I know that road well and it used to be 50mph nearly all the way from Bitterne to Northam, it is still duel carriageway, Armcoed and pedestrian separated and it has high speed partially banked corners I can understand why anyone would miss read the conditions and feel it was a faster road.

I strongly believe that road design is the only way to limit speed and I donít mean sleeping policemen. Narrow bendy roads naturally limit speed as do things like cobbles and gravel.
In parts of Germany a lot of village centres are cobbled while the ring roads is tarmaced so you choose, go through the middle slowly or around the out side faster.
To build fast flat roads and expect people to drive slowly is mad. A good example of this is the road through the Forest to Godshill, it used to be a bumpy single track with passing places, it was rebuilt to a single carriageway with flat smooth tarmac and no one could understand why everyone was doing 80 along it had they left it alone it would have naturally controlled speed Des
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Richard: Bob is a child, that is why is was driving through Southampton. Becasue he's young he was probably drunk as well, and wasn't wearing a seatbelt
If Bob is an adult, he will take responsibility for his actions and accept the points & fine; if he is a child he will seek to shift the responsibility to someone else.

Tim, I think you might mean this stretch of road:
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I think it is about time the traffic designers realised that cars have advanced slightly in the last 100 years!!!

Also the way they harp on about speed is really sickening - maybe if they sorted out the roads it would be safer to go faster!!!

Has anyone noticed how they are quick enough to put up speed humps and yet they wont resurface a road?

And talking or road surfaces I wonder how many people have noticed the new trend to put concrete sections at traffic lights - junctions - bends etc. Anyone know why? Anyone even thought about it?

Basically a few years ago a new European standard for tarmac was adopted - much smoother than the UK norm - great in Spain or Greece - bloody dangerous in the UK. So slippery they have to compensate by putting in these expensive new concrete sections!!!

The biggest safety invention of them all is porus tarmac - anyone who has driven on this stuff on certain trial sections of the M4 will know what I mean. Pouring with rain - spray everywhere - then all of a sudden it is like it has stopped raining - no standing water - brilliant!!! Also happens to be far quieter which is great for people living by noisy roads. Why don't they use it? They say it is too expensive - and yet speed humps cost about £30,000 EACH!!!
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laser detectors

The police are now using laser speed cameras instead of easily detectable radar detectors.

Good news, laser speed camera jammers already emerging on market

Bad news, a friend who makes portable speed cameras is already testing a laser jammer detector for the police so they can ban them and enforce such a ban.

He is a good bloke really but I do sometimes wonder if he has any morals.
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think bob, means this section of road, on an uphill down hill section where there is a cemera either side of the road.

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why dont we manufacture cars that do a limit of 70mph?? and capable of towing our toys!!!
because few people would buy one!

The limiter in an M3 will let you go up past 155 to about 170 then gradually reduce you back to 155 - I'm sure 170 will be ample for you.. I paid to remove this limiter on my M3, but there isnt really any need unless you're planning to bomb down the autobahn at mach1
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If Bob is an adult, he will take responsibility for his actions and accept the points & fine; if he is a child he will seek to shift the responsibility to someone else.
He's definatly a child then.

Laser (Rich) is correct; that is where it is.
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