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Old 24 February 2014, 03:04   #1
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Which iphone for RIB apps?

Hello

While I like my Blackberry for work emails, the lack of Marine / RIB related apps is making me look at an iphone, now that I've an upgrade on offer from Vodafone.

As ever as a good Yorkshireman I'd always prefer to pay the least, which in this case would be for an iphone 4s 8GB.

I was wanting to check your thoughts on that and if it really was worth paying extra for the newer versions, such as the 5c 16GB or the 5s 16GB.

Clearly there's more memory, but do the series 5 phones do more for me as a RIBer than the 4.

Also, as I'm wanting this to act as a backup gps/chart plotter (to my Garmin and paper charts) I wondered what app/charts people recommended for that on an iphone?

Also waterproof case recommendations welcome too

Any other non-boating related comments on the iphone choice valued as well.

Many thanks for your help

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Old 24 February 2014, 03:15   #2
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I like iSailor and Navionics as iOS charting apps
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I have the Navionics App on an iPhone 4. It's a 30 App but its a good back up should the boat/plotter suffer electrical problems.


I also installed the Viewranger App which is basically an OS map of Scotland. Handy if you just want to pinpoint the nearest village/settlement.

I installed a 12v socket on the console for charging phone, these Apps are power hungry.

Don't forget your Ottherbox waterproof cover.
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Agree with the Navionics but prefer the Overboards for iphone/ipad and shoulder bags. Totally waterproof, easy to use and inexpensive.

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I was wanting to check your thoughts on that and if it really was worth paying extra for the newer versions, such as the 5c 16GB or the 5s 16GB.
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As a backup the iPhone is fine so long has you get a decent waterproof case thro which you can still use & clearly see the touchscreen - I have a Lifeproof one - available much cheaper on eBay than elsewhere - which seems pretty good.

I think 8gb is marginal memory and really if you are going to use the iPhone seriously especially with that sort of app ( & others) you need 32gb.

The big advantage of the 5, 5s & 5c over the 4 is the increased screen size especially for mapping/charting apps. All 4 & 5 iPhones can run the latest IOS (at present)

Again just be aware that the gps/location function only really works satisfactorily when you also have wifi coverage. Fine for coastal but iffy mid channel.
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I have a Lifeproof one - available much cheaper on eBay than elsewhere - which seems pretty good.
These will almost certainly be counterfeit. Whilst they may be quite convincing copies I wouldn't trust one to protect my phone in extreme conditions.
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Again just be aware that the gps/location function only really works satisfactorily when you also have wifi coverage. Fine for coastal but iffy mid channel.
Hello longjohn - many thanks for this... can I check do you mean wifi or a mobile phone data signal, as if the former there's no chance here, whereas while patchy, we do at least get slow GRPS mobile data.

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I have the Navionics App on an iPhone 4. It's a 30 App but its a good back up should the boat/plotter suffer electrical problems.
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Thanks for this Alan - are the charts loaded onto the iphone and stored locally, rather than needing to be downloaded all the time?

Good idea re the 12v socket too - thanks

(Also will ask you about Ribbing on Loch Shiel - any info about accessing the slip at Acharacle please or Dalelia? - happy to pm / email /speak if easier).

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These will almost certainly be counterfeit. Whilst they may be quite convincing copies I wouldn't trust one to protect my phone in extreme conditions.
Admittedly only cost a tenner so may or may not be counterfeit - certainly looks exactly like the real deal, was packaged as such and is of good quality

I have tested it fully immersed in water (without the phone at first!) and it didn't show any leaks - but all I really need it to be is splash proof and wet hands proof which a naked iPhone certainly isn't (been there got the T-shirt). So as far as i'm concerned does the job required.
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Hello longjohn - many thanks for this... can I check do you mean wifi or a mobile phone data signal, as if the former there's no chance here, whereas while patchy, we do at least get slow GRPS mobile data.

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The iPhone does have a real GPS receiver but in reality uses assisted GPS (AGPS) utilsing the GSM/3G & wifi networks to provide a quicker positional fix - so it does know exactly where you are (even without the assisted bit - just taking longer to find out). However it is entirely dependant on the internet for map tile data and therefore cannot show your position on a map without this connection - so it knows where you are but just can't put it on a map. This is certainly true for the built in mapping apps & Google maps - not sure if any of the navigational apps get round this by having a built in positional & map database or something....??
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