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Old 10 July 2019, 07:42   #1
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2 way or vhf

Trying to work out if itís worth me getting a vhf license and radios or just buy a couple of 2way radios so I can talk to my friends on the beach from around a mile out,and if 2 way seems best, any recommendations
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Old 10 July 2019, 09:07   #2
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Do the VHF.
A "2way" radio will find itself in a pool of water in the bilges drowned and it's limitations are too numerous to list. example...no direct contact with coast guard, RNLI etc.
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A difficult question and no simple answer imho. A hand held vhf will give you a greater degree of safety as you can be in direct contact with the coastguard and or rescue services.
That said I'm sure communication and general chit chat with a shore based vhf is discouraged due to the limited no of chanels available.
If your going to be out fishing in a bay or sheltered area and your wife wants to tell you lunch is ready then a two way radio might be preferable assuming your within sight of land and if you break down then the base station can raise the alarm and keep in contact.
As for ending up in the bilges that could happen with any radio unless you buy a waterproof version but not all are.
It realy depends on your intended use and area of operation.
The trend nowadays is to suggest you need a VHF to step in a deep puddle but many of us went many miles out years ago before mobile phones & vhf was readily available and lived to tell the tail
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A difficult question and no simple answer imho. A hand held vhf will give you a greater degree of safety as you can be in direct contact with the coastguard and or rescue services.
Itís difficult to argue against this logic (it also means you may be aware of others in distress nearby who you could help - or advise the CG when a concerned citizen calls in that you seem to be drifting and broken down)

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That said I'm sure communication and general chit chat with a shore based vhf is discouraged due to the limited no of chanels available.
itís not just discouraged, but use on land is illegal except with special licenses that the OP wont have.
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If your going to be out fishing in a bay or sheltered area and your wife wants to tell you lunch is ready then a two way radio might be preferable assuming your within sight of land and if you break down then the base station can raise the alarm and keep in contact.
having once found myself in that sort of situation Iíd miss the middle(wo)man out - when the proverbial is hitting the fan you really donít want an amateur getting in the way or passing on misinformation.

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As for ending up in the bilges that could happen with any radio unless you buy a waterproof version but not all are.
most h/held vhf are, most pmr are not.

If both benefits are really wanted there are options to get both in one package though - like: http://www.cactusnav.com/standard-ho...o-p-12712.html - the shore station just needs a cheap pmr then.

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It realy depends on your intended use and area of operation.
The trend nowadays is to suggest you need a VHF to step in a deep puddle but many of us went many miles out years ago before mobile phones & vhf was readily available and lived to tell the tail
Could be survivor bias though! However Iím inclined to agree as cell phone coverage continually improves then a phone in a dry pouch isnít looking as shaky as 5-10 yrs ago. Certainly this week Iíve had 4g coverage in places where I donít have vhf comms (from a 2m high, 25W mast never mind a h/h) to the CG.
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This also depends on where you are. Will the "2way" do anything a mobile won't ? I used to have a CB in the boat as well as the VHF but it never got used, ended up in the bin.

Indeed many of us went miles with no VHF (or life-jackets) before mobile phones were invented but when I reflect on it........it wasn't clever. I still have the first VHF mobile I bought....about 15 or so years ago, cost around £40 quid and it still works perfectly.

But as Beamishken points out, using a VHF for idle chit-chat with a shore based buddy is at best frowned upon if not actually illegal.
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Thanks for all the input,it really is for lunch is ready kinda chats as there is not a very good mobile signal where I go on hoildays, so think Iíll get some 2 ways for now and put getting a vhf license as a winter to do list
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Thanks for all the input,it really is for lunch is ready kinda chats as there is not a very good mobile signal where I go on hoildays, so think Iíll get some 2 ways for now and put getting a vhf license as a winter to do list
No mobile signal? Forget the license and get a basic VHF. Teach yourself how to call the CG and make a basic emergency call. PMRs fine for lunch - get those too.
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Get a VHF for use on the boat, either fixed or handheld and use a mobile phone to speak to whoever ashore if you have suitable reception.

Use of VHF will require a licence, and if you were thinking of using vhf both ways than that would mean potentially two licences, person on boat and person on land and doubfull person on land could get a licence as that would potentially be a vhf base or something like that and like someone said without the specialist licence ashore it would be ilegal.

Having said that I have used a VHF handheld from the shore but that was in an emergency.

I think you need to seperate the two functions. Having a VHF on your boat is pretty much a first priority, if you dont have a VHF you are just asking for trouble, you really should not go to sea, its as important as having a life jacket.

For comms to beach then 2 way walky talkies, mobile phones, mirror signals or whatever.
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Mobile phone coverage down here in the south is rather poor along the coast, from Poole as soon as you cross swanage bay heading west the coverage cuts out, most of the stretch from swanage to durdle door you can get decent coverage.
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Do I remember summat from my VHF course about you license permitting a 'shore party' to communicate with the 'ship' via handheld vhf? Prolly mis-remembering...
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