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Old 12 July 2019, 03:02   #21
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Just do the course! Itís 1 day out of your life and a saddo like me quite enjoyed it even after using vhfs on ships for years.
Weirdly, nobody worried about having a license if you were an engineer.
I donít think anyoneís ever actually been fined though.
I understand the course is now two days - used to be 1 then the RYA changed the syllabus and duration. I heard this was on the cards and a friend and I took the one day course just before the change - found it quite interesting, quite a lot of emphasis on emergency protocols and the use of DSC.
If my kids go off on paddle boards or our tender then there'll take one of the spare handhelds - just in case
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Old 12 July 2019, 04:38   #22
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It certainly is, because your post contains information which misrepresents the situation.

You seem to have muddled the Ship Radio License and the Operators "License" (SRC Certificate). The former is free of charge, generates the call sign and MMSI and requires no proof of competence for the owner. It also records various details about the vessel but as far as I know that information is not readily available to the MCGA so suggesting it is means people are less likely to use the recommended (SafeTrx app) method of sharing these details.

Operating a VHF radio without "Operators License" is permitted in an emergency. There is an explicit exemption in law for it. Telling people that this is not the case is misleading and might discourage someone from calling the CG early when a problem develops - that puts lives at risk so please don't mislead people like this.
I have not been able to find the exemption but would agree it makes sense if there was one, however take all this in context with the original thread and comments made, there is a difference between someone other than the owner making an emergency call and the owner who may have deliberately not bothered to get any form of licensing for the radios or an operators licence, im just suggesting ofcom might get shirty if deliberately the owner has not made any attempt at registering and licensing.
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Old 12 July 2019, 12:39   #23
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I have not been able to find the exemption but would agree it makes sense if there was one,
itís on the T&Cs of your license (clause 12, on page 2 of this document: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/asse...ship-terms.pdf) but I seem to recall itís expressly included in law also.

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however take all this in context with the original thread and comments made, there is a difference between someone other than the owner making an emergency call and the owner who may have deliberately not bothered to get any form of licensing for the radios or an operators licence,
nobody has suggested not filling in the free form to get a ships radio license. Youíll notice that there are other exemptions - like if it is only used on M/M2. The law does not make the distinction you are suggesting it does about the intent behind not having a certificate of competence.
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im just suggesting ofcom might get shirty if deliberately the owner has not made any attempt at registering and licensing.

Ofcom really arenít going to get shorty, theyíve not had teams of people out doing inspection or enforcement of Marine radios since they stopped being called the Radio Agency, and you had to pay for a ships radio license. They are interested in people abusing radio frequencies (pirate radio, badly made diy radio transceivers, potentially dodgy uncertified imports etc).
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Ofcom are even less interested in gangster films
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Ofcom are even less interested in gangster films
Bruce sees them as the Heat, but we know they're really Goodfellas, not interested in the Usual Suspects...
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Old 12 July 2019, 16:54   #26
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When did vhf become 2 days?

MMSI is issued free to anyone who requests one.

Cobra handheld with Bluetooth is handy for these situations....
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From a brief look at schools in my area, the VHF course is still advertised as one day.
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Old 13 July 2019, 02:35   #28
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VHF course now online

You can do the course online although some schools still do a classroom course. Most of your local Sea Schools should do the online course.
Prices vary from £80 to £120. Go at your own pace then when youíve done all the modules you print out the course completion certificate and contact the nominated Examiner to arrange the classroom type exam for which you pay £60. People pass quite easily so it does work. What price your life or those of your passengers.
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Old 13 July 2019, 05:16   #29
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From a brief look at schools in my area, the VHF course is still advertised as one day.

I think they are ďgetting round itĒ by saying you have to do three hrs home study before you come (no idea how verified) and then the exam is no longer part of the 7.5 hrs (or whatever it used to be) long course?
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I did my course a few weeks back it was only 1 day. Yes you can use the radio in a genuine emergency without the licence but the course does clear up what your supposed to say. The test is pretty hard to fail tbh too! Bonus from mine I got discount on a handheld vhf too through the course!
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