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Old 23 March 2016, 11:18   #11
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Well I've taken it on a voyage round the garden tub so some more impressions...

Really odd not to have a choke any more. The Mercury was... wind the fast idle knob round, pull out the choke a few times to operate primer and leave out. On the Suzuki you ... well... just pull it over.

The pull is heavier than the old Mercury and I'd not complain if it eases off as the engine runs in. I thought they had a decompression function... I must check this out. Starting though is instant and of course no need to wait for the right time to push a choke in... it sits at 850rpm idle in or out of gear hot or cold all controlled by the ECU.

Despite being totally familiar with the Mercury/Mariner intermittant coolant tell-tale it's nice to see a powerful jet of water projected a couple of meters to the rear in a muted jetski fashion.

I carried out the initial 15mins idle speed running in using neutral/fwd/rev and the occasional throttle blip.... can't do more until we hit the sea.

Most impressive feature... the lack of noise. Idling just outside the dining room window you can't hear it at all and that's never been the case with any outboard we've owned before. Also I've never minded 2-stroke smoke but a totally clean exhaust is a novelty.

The gearchange is on a paddle at the front and that's a first for me too. It seems after this initial experience it may be my preferred position but it's a little exposed to damage and only made of plastic.

And actually that's a theme you have to accept. If as an old timer a main perception of quality is weight and strength of components then compared to a mid 2000s Mariner/Mercury/Yamaha etc then this feels lower quality. However I looked at a Honda alongside these Suzukis in the dealer before deciding and seems it's the way modern 4-strokes are going to keep weight down.

But so far so good.

Note that tach is only on the hood with Bluetac!
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Old 23 March 2016, 12:38   #12
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Ahh it does have a decompression system but there's a knack to it as I've read in other tests.

You pull the rope out a few inches until it feels heavy and resists... then release and pull again to start when the decompression kicks in.
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Old 23 March 2016, 13:50   #13
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Sorry to hijack a bit but re Suzuki service charges for info 20 hour or first year same price 65+vat oil & filter included ribquest Chesterfield takes an hour to do.

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Sorry to hijack a bit but re Suzuki service charges for info 20 hour or first year same price 65+vat oil & filter included ribquest Chesterfield takes an hour to do.

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That sounds more like it👍
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Well that new motor certainly looks and sounds the part. I'd be tempted to leave the 15hp markings and next time you're out you'll leave the other "15hp" boy racers behind ;-)

I've already got engine envy, what do you mean you don't have to mess around with a choke ?!?!? ;-)
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That sounds more like it👍
yes Dave girl in the office got it wrong i will get some more info re service costs when i go over for different engine sizes and post for info. the 247 was for a full blown service in the scheme of things not a bad price.

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>>> be tempted to leave the 15hp markings


Not possible... I'm a bit OCD and it'll bring me out in spots!

Question about your Honda. I mentioned the Suzuki start decompression earlier... yours has it too... how does it work... just easy to pull all the time or do you have to "cock" it somehow?

Re next running in we have Easter Sat/Sun/Mon free and seems it will be raining and windy all the time. Hope it's not another year like 2015.

Tomorrow looks perfect though... and as of now it's not a day we can go... typical.
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>>> Question about your Honda. I mentioned the Suzuki start decompression earlier... yours has it too... how does it work... just easy to pull all the time or do you have to "cock" it somehow?

Not that I have another outboard to compare to but it has always been very very easy on the arm to pull start and so far I have not ever noticed the arm jarring resistance sometimes experienced on my chainsaw if I'm being a bit aggressive with it and have the piston in the wrong place when starting. I guess it feels no different to getting the pistons in the right position for an easy pull every time. All I do (by instruction manual) is pull the chord gently until I get resistance and then give it the sharp pull over... Simples...

Still got choke envy...

Easter Monday I could do if I was very brave (gusts of 52kts/swell 3.8m) possibly Tuesday too... Tides look doable for a lunchtime launch, depends if that wind/rain arrives early or late...
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>>>>Still got choke envy...

Well yes but if the Suzuki doesn't start at the slip in front onlookers there's nothing to have a meaningful fiddle with... perhaps a false choke knob may be needed.

Just so we don't creep out without saying... I've loaded the car and we're all fuelled up... in case we can move family stuff round to catch the supposedly decent day tomorrow.

It's interesting every small bit of weight or size increase in this sibbing game makes a big difference when travelling the kit. The Suzuki with its large powerhead/hood is just too tall to go between the loadspace sides (the Mercury 15 did easily) so it has to remain at an awkward angle. Also the tiller arm is long and doesn't fold right back so that has to remain sticking out. This all means the previous "boat in first with outboard behind half on side half on back at the rear of the loadspace" doesn't work.

I've packed all the gear around the outboard and now the Aerotec goes on top just fitting in. It's the tightest pack of any outfit so far.
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Well Fenlander, I hope you made it out today... what a stunner of a day for it!

You know I've not actually tried putting all my gear in the car boot, and to be honest I think it won't all fit without at least 1 of the rear seats folded. We have a Passat estate but due to awkward cowl shapes, tiller arms and sizeable honwave I think it will be a struggle. Maybe that's a game for the easter break...
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