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Old 13 October 2014, 12:28   #51
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Old 13 October 2014, 12:31   #52
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I was also thinking that it's often Poly dishing it out. There we go!
Only where it's called for.
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Old 13 October 2014, 12:53   #53
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I have twice started to write a reply to this thread, and twice decided not to get involved but, like a nagging toothache, sooner or later you just have to do something about it.

Leaving aside the slightly choppy ride I got when I first joined the forum, I too have previously commented about some of the negativity that gets sprayed in the direction of anyone who dares admit that they're considering a RIB that is not specifically built to handle the rough stuff.

Take the recent new member who was comparing Ribcraft and Brig models. The poor guy must have wondered what he'd waded into, and when it later emerged that the RC he was considering was a 'leisure' type layout, that was dissed too. As I said in that thread, perhaps other brands (perhaps even Brig) offer a better leisure offering.

I can of course appreciate that there are RIBs with a far better rough sea pedigree than my own Walker Bay, but I bought it because it was the best fit for my own boating needs and budget. Would I swap it for a go anywhere SR/RC/etc equipped with 2-stroke jockey seats? No, of course not, just as I wouldn't expect a hardcore ribnobber to want to swap their boat for mine. That doesn't make one 'superior' to the other, just different and suited to different needs.

As for Brig, I wonder how many of the 'knockers' have actually tried one, let alone tried to understand that it might just be the best option for some people's needs. And I'm not defending the underhand marketing techniques that have apparently been employed on behalf of the brand (which have surely backfired big-time anyway), but does that justify pouring scorn on every potential Brig buyer who comes to this forum looking for advice? I think not.

This forum is an invaluable resource for technical knowledge, safety tips, and shared experiences, but such 'welcomes' will surely mean some don't return to benefit from that pool of expertise and become better/safer boaters as a result.
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Any new member who appears to be flag waving for Brig is inevitably going to be treated with suspicion. It's unfortunate but there you go.

In that particular thread advice was sought, and much good advice was given. Ribcraft are a well established and respected make, with good resale values. Brig doesn't have this pedigree and the advice reflected that.

For some reason one Brig owner took this as personal criticism of his choice of boat. This is something I have noticed with certain other makes too, but I'm not sure how we avoid it. If we just pretend that all boats are equally brilliant it's not going to be very helpful!
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Any new member who appears to be flag waving for Brig is inevitably going to be treated with suspicion. It's unfortunate but there you go.

In that particular thread advice was sought, and much good advice was given. Ribcraft are a well established and respected make, with good resale values. Brig doesn't have this pedigree and the advice reflected that.

For some reason one Brig owner took this as personal criticism of his choice of boat. This is something I have noticed with certain other makes too, but I'm not sure how we avoid it. If we just pretend that all boats are equally brilliant it's not going to be very helpful!
I'll grant you, some advice was given, along with a fair bit of ridicule too. Look at your own reply here, "Ribcraft are a well established and respected make, with good resale values. Brig doesn't have this pedigree and the advice reflected that." Maybe not, but maybe their strengths are just measured differently and hence appeal to a different type of user.

Okay the Brig owner went a bit OTT (imho), but if you stand back and ignore the prejudice caused by the "flag wavers" you can possibly understand why he would do. Let's face it, nobody likes to have their pride and joy rubbished constantly.
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I think its a very well run forum from the admin guys. loads of late night entertainment from around the UK when the winter nights draw in.
Its a difficult one as you have "Ribcraft" the market leader in Ribs as most people know, being placed against the the lower quality mass produced Mediterranean builds that are ideally not suited to British waters and will always create an entertaining discussion.

I love Osbrigs,
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The general hostility towards Bligs is not aimed at the owners nor indeed the actual boats themselves. I have never been on one so can't comment on the quality or build. The problem is a purely self inflicted wound by Blig themselves or their paid representatives. By repeatedly spamming the forum in an attempt to gain free publicity, (which they now have in spades ) they destroyed any prospect of their boats ever being seen in a good light.
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A dollop of 'bugger' would sometimes help, rather than the tireless defence of poorly researched purchases.
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I think its a very well run forum from the admin guys. loads of late night entertainment from around the UK when the winter nights draw in.
Its a difficult one as you have "Ribcraft" the market leader in Ribs as most people know, being placed against the the lower quality mass produced Mediterranean builds that are ideally not suited to British waters and will always create an entertaining discussion.

I love Osbrigs,
hmmmmm ............... I'm not gonna start knocking Ribcraft, they're nice ribs, but not sure they're the market leader, I can think of a few others which are as equally good
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I can think of a few others which are as equally good
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