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Old 18 August 2015, 11:14   #11
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Yeah I know what your saying PD, but if that same pub was repeatedly losing customers (who as a whole, were all whinging about the stale taste to the beer) then maybe the landlord might want to look at changing things a bit.
Sure entry to the "pub" is free but without the customers then what good is it? I thought it was the customers that created the environment which ultimately leads to revenue being generated ( in the form of advertising and trade memberships in RN's case) Pretty soon the brewery is gonna be asking whether it's worth keeping it open if no one is spending money because.... well...no one is coming in!

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But ultimately it's down to the landlord, you can politely suggest that changing the beer, getting a comely wench behind the bar, cleaning the toilets etc. might all benefit his business & he might take some of that onboard. But if you go charging in week in, week out, telling him how to run his business he'll probably quite rightly tell you where to go. It might just be, that the quiet majority of his customers like warm beer & the gorilla behind the bar
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Old 18 August 2015, 11:44   #12
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But ultimately it's down to the landlord, you can politely suggest that changing the beer, getting a comely wench behind the bar, cleaning the toilets etc. might all benefit his business & he might take some of that onboard. But if you go charging in week in, week out, telling him how to run his business he'll probably quite rightly tell you where to go. It might just be, that the quiet majority of his customers like warm beer & the gorilla behind the bar
Haha... Yeah but in all fairness in this case, the Landlord DID ask for suggestions did he not?
But I do agree that there are ways to get a point across and simply logging on to have a whinge about RN is not one of them.
Your last sentence does raise a good point though, that being "who are the majority and how do they feel"?
The comments I've made so far have only been based on my own personal eyewitness account leading me to believe there is a fall in active members. Perhaps it's not the case at all? as you say maybe there is still a majority who feel strongly about maintaining the status quo?
Perhaps JK can answer this and confirm that member numbers are stable and the activity on the site hasn't declined.
Believe it or not I would be glad to hear it, I used to very much enjoy RN and all the banter that went with it ( minus my aforementioned issue with certain Mods)
Sure I visit the RHIB site from time to time although like on here I tend to lurk more than I post but I would love to see RN go back to how it was a few years back.... Used to be a really good crack.

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Old 18 August 2015, 11:50   #13
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from what was a mild "get it off the chest" post, alot has come out of it which makes it obvious that there is a need for some kind of reform. 4 full pages in one day, since ive been here (granted not long) this is the most active thread ive seen since i started.

that must mean something, take from it what you will.
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Anyway I'm off to drag the boat back into the workshop, I'm away to work tomorrow for a few weeks just when it seems the weather is improving.... Typical!! and anyway, all this talk of pubs has made me thirsty!! ;-)

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Old 18 August 2015, 12:08   #15
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from what was a mild "get it off the chest" post, alot has come out of it which makes it obvious that there is a need for some kind of reform. 4 full pages in one day, since ive been here (granted not long) this is the most active thread ive seen since i started.

that must mean something, take from it what you will.
Aye, it always makes for good column inches. But basically it's only a dozen or so members out of thousands, gobbing off about summat & nowt. It just makes a change from "which insurer" or "tube cleaning" threads
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Old 18 August 2015, 12:21   #16
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I don't post on here much but tbh if I post something and get a reply I don't like I don't blame the forum.

As a long time reader I see it as people read past posts and see potential banter but to an outsider might not be taken as banter. Then when they post they receive the banter and take offence and blame the forum.

This is how it looks to me and think everyone just needs to change their tampons and come back in a week and give less of a sh*t to some of the responses

I read what I want to and ignore what is irrelevant to me or laugh at other bits but why take it to heart.

I'm sure if I pull up in a marina next to any of you and say hello I could get into a civil conversation so why care about what people say online.

Has anyone who felt like they was being picked on reported it to admin before they just left? If not then nothing will change but my fear is it then become a school playground of tell tales
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Perhaps we can talk about the word hypocrite.

Mr il corvo, the last bastion of politeness and good manners showed up to cr@p on somebody's new rib which they put a lot of time, thought, and effort to make it what they wanted because mr il corvo doesn't think the HP rating is high enough on it, "its a shame that a rib of that size is rated to such a low hp (mine is way bigger)" but enjoy your new boat.

You mean the issue here is post like that? I'd say you are correct, the person who posted that is a twit.

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John, the problem isn't something that one click of a mouse can sort. there is a small nucleus of posters who gladly jump on bandwagons, spout negativity, sarcastic responses. unfortunatly, it's a small minority that cause and perpetuate problems.
Are you suggesting that I ban anyone who is sarcastic or judged to be insufficiently positive in some way?

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like i posted before, as a newbie to the site sometimes i have found it "cold". it took 75 odd views of my initial "hello post" before anyone condescended to even reply with a simple "hello" or "welcome". not the best of starts.

I'll come clean and confess that I don't really like having a "say hello" section. It wasn't something that I implemented and I don't give it a lot of attention.

That isn't to say that it's necessarily a bad thing though, and it could probably be used better. Would anyone like to volunteer to be part of an informal welcome committee to make sure that introduction posts get a timely response?
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Here's a simple one for you...create a maximum term that a moderator can serve in that position and limit it to say 2 years max.
Fair enough, I did ask for suggestions! It doesn't actually tell me what the problem is though.

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I admit I have had issues with the way certain Mods have reacted to people's comments which is probably the main reason I spend most of my time lurking now.

If mods were capriciously deleting or posts, or threatening sanctions without due cause, then I would certainly be looking to replace them. However I don't see that happening.

Is it generally more annoying when someone argues with you if they happen to be a mod? Is there a feeling that they somehow have more "clout" because of it?

Should different posting standards apply to anyone who volunteers their time as a moderator?
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