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Old 13 February 2004, 04:58   #61
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They are Euro 25,000 but if you order more than one you get them for a bit less. If any is interested we can group together and make a bulk order so we can get them for a lot less.

Any one please let me know
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Old 13 February 2004, 14:22   #62
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£49,999 inc VAT for the Hummer H2 (the civilian spec unit) - not bad for a car with a 6.0 litre V8, although it is 86.5" wide
And it'll p*ss over my Rangie off road
You have got to be joking.
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Old 13 February 2004, 14:27   #63
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You know Jack about 4x4s.. On my 12th LR product over 20 years, (nice shiny 110 Td5) and wife has Td4 Freelander. Have taken all my 4x4's off road both here and Europe (Alps/Pyrenees Etc) and would say that within the limits of its ground clearance (and with decent tyres natch!) the Freelander is one very competent vehicle. The lack of transfer box (high/low) does not hinder it very much on the slippery stuff. In fact on mud, wet grass, light snow it will leave my defender for dead. Traction control beats centre diff lock in these cases....... oh for another set of ARBs......
Rant over!!!

PS - 4x4 owner's have same blinkered loyalties as RIBs...

PPS - In the Pyrenees last time, there we were feeling all pleased with ourselves for mastering the Montgari trail, when a little Spanish renault van comes the other way loaded up with the family plus picnic. It ain't what you drive, it's how you drive it.
Got traction control on my 110 TD5 fantastic..
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Old 13 February 2004, 15:39   #64
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You have got to be joking.
Joking about what? - the price or the off-road ability?
Price is what's quoted on American Car Import website. Remember I'm talking about the civilian spec machine here. And even if you don't think the H2 would beat my new Range Rover V8 off-road, I can assure you categorically that the military spec version most definitely WILL.

ps. but I'll happily take on your Defender and beat it
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Old 13 February 2004, 15:51   #65
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Well believe it or not........

I know one of the design engineers of both the original and the H2. His name is Ben Reedy and if anyone really wants to know more spercific details, let me know.
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Old 17 February 2004, 18:00   #66
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Freelanders Off-Road

I'm on my second freelander.

this was my 1st - a diesel, used to take it all over the place - Compleatly standard - it used to amaze the traditional Landy folk.

The best day - and its a shame I dont have a photo - was when, at a site day, I towed a 110 Camel Trophey back to the top of the site when its fuel pump went!! He was a bit red faced in front of his camel mates!!

Now I have a 2.5L V6 - fitted with LPG conversion, Automatic, cruise control and its just great for towing and launching!!

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Old 17 February 2004, 18:32   #68
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Its gripped, its sorted, lets offroad!

(Fast show devotees will know where I am coming from with that title )

I was into offroading before RIBS from early days of CCTV trailing whislt at Uni through knocking lumps of an old Daihatsu F20 through to buying a Series III LR. Unfortunately my mechanical abilities, patience and time were insufficient to keep it running so after some time on the drive becoming one with nature it got sold to the relief of my neighbours!

Would love to do some of the French offroad raids though although serious investment in kit required as I sold my 4x4 when I sold Blue Ice.

My perspective on the whole Land Rover thing was coloured completely through the experience of working there for 18 months or so after Ford took over. Quality was appalling (this is back in 2000). New Rangie owner (prev. model P38A) stood 55% chance of having to call out Roadside rescue in first 3 years! Assembly methods were primitive - esp. for Defenders (much use of ISO std Hammers in Body Construction.) From what I hear from current contacts in manufacturing things have improved a bit although the workforce seems intent on committing suicide as Uncle Henry is losing so much money he has limited patience these days....

I had two Disco's as company cars (and managed to keep em upright Jono ) which I loved and hated in equal measure. The image is still outstanding, the indefinable quality of a motoring icon. Td5 engine OK, permanent 4x4 and active suspension make for good handling for what it is (much better the Trooper but nowhere near X5 etc). But the ergonomics, quality of material in the interior, equipment levels and fundamentally value for money are just awful. A £28k 4x4 with no aircon? Errm no I dont think so.
I had the chance to buy my last company car at a discount when I left in late 2001 but it was still poor vfm so I went Jap instead.

If I could justify a second motor for local work only then I'd have a Defender Td5 (or rather softtop V8) in a shot. Hummer? Too wide for Uk H2? watered down version to cater for America's obsession with SUV's Pointless thing.

Enough rambling. I'm off in my V*lvo!
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I'd have a Defender Td5 (or rather softtop V8) in a shot.
Alan, I couldn't really see you as Lara Croft!!
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Old 17 February 2004, 19:06   #70
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I,ve had a trooper, and I/ve got a disco and a 110 (all old) but I really want a Patrol. The trooper engine was superb by the way (it may well wind up in the 110)
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