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Old 03 March 2007, 03:15   #51
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Pete, you seem to have a bit of selective memory here!
Richard nothing selective here. IMHO towing 4 tonnes or even close to it with a vehicle that weighs half that isn't sensible. That big air braked trailer Richard started this post with I think has 3 axles, as you have pointed out its going to weigh in close to 1000 kgs. If it was just for use in a boat yard or from the slip round to the chandlers and boat storage at Port Solenti then yes I would risk it with a 4x4 at 14 mph. But if its for use on the road then I would still buy the trailer, just pay someone with a big truck and some commerical insurance to move it for me.

As Carl pointed out we have seen Richard drive

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Old 03 March 2007, 06:31   #52
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anyway more to the point,has anyone been in a car when lazy buoy is driving, the locals refer to him as the bloke who used to drive for miss daisy cant think of anything worse than him in a truck/let alone towing hahahahahaah

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As Carl pointed out we have seen Richard drive

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Oi cheeky buggers, there's nothing wrong with my driving. Seem to remember Carl towing your boat very well.
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oi lazy arnt you supposed to be out playing? or is to rough for you driving
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Oi cheeky buggers, there's nothing wrong with my driving. Seem to remember Carl towing your boat very well.
i was shitting bricks at the time
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Many people seem to think the problem is the weight difference between the load and the tractor. That need not be the case. An artic tractor unit weighs considerably less than the load it pulls - as does a loco pulling a 2,000 ton train. The old saying is - the engine pulls the train but it's the train that stops the engine.

In other words it's all down to the trailer. A well setup trailer with the correct number of axles and good brakes etc is a joy to tow - you can have a much lighter trailer that is a bitch.
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Many people seem to think the problem is the weight difference between the load and the tractor. That need not be the case. An artic tractor unit weighs considerably less than the load it pulls - as does a loco pulling a 2,000 ton train. The old saying is - the engine pulls the train but it's the train that stops the engine.

In other words it's all down to the trailer. A well setup trailer with the correct number of axles and good brakes etc is a joy to tow - you can have a much lighter trailer that is a bitch.

Where are the wheels on an "artic" trailer...Mmm.. let me think? How do train brakes work?... ...

We're talking about drawbar trailers with "overrun" type brakes.. your comparison is ludicrous.
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Where are the wheels on an "artic" trailer...Mmm.. let me think? How do train brakes work?... ...

We're talking about drawbar trailers with "overrun" type brakes.. your comparison is ludicrous.
Overun brakes can work perfectly well if in good order - otherwise surely they would be banned!!!
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Overun brakes can work perfectly well if in good order - otherwise surely they would be banned!!!
Who's saying otherwise?
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So, back to the original question,are we recommending this trailer for shunting around the marina and doing the antifouling, winter storeage etc ?

I think so, afterall might have a value for renting out when the next 9m Parker arrives on our shores.

As for the towing vehicle wonder if Andy Stevens wants to invest in an old Bedford Mk. Not fast, but cheap to run and 4x4. Or he has a One Tonne truck.

Richard, Degraff wanted 400 for 1500 kg axles last time I spoke to him, 1800 kgs are also available.


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You need a:-
Class C1 (7.5 tonne) licence to drive a 7.5 tonner
Class C1E to drive a 7.5 tonner with trailer with Max Authorised Mass up to 12000kg (though there's a licence restriction in place for non HGV licence holders restricting total weight of the whole combination to 8250kg)
Class C is rigid HGV with up to 750kg trailer
Class C+E is the old class 1 or artic HGV licence

If you want to drive the classes of vehicle above, look at your licence. If it's there then you can drive it. If it's not then take a test for that type of vehicle.

If you use a 7.5 tonner as a tow vehicle the weight of the whole rig can't exceed 8250kg-ie empty 7.5 tonner@4 tonnes(ish) means it can tow 4250kg.

Ta.. Nos

I appreciate that .. must get meself into metric one of these days
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