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Old 07 November 2005, 16:58   #21
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I've been looking at the Mitsubishi Delica as a Tow MPV'ish vehical. Not badly priced and based on the shogun/Pajero I think. Looks cool and seats 7/8, has 4x4 and a 2.8 TD 4 cylinder engine. Check them out on Ebay Jim, not sure about extreme offroad ability though but check out :http://www.mdocuk.co.uk/forums/
Andy,might be a red heron but a mate of mine had a delicia diesel and struggled to get better then 20 mpg out of it and he didnt tow,last time I saw him,he was going to get it looked at.
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Old 07 November 2005, 17:07   #22
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Surf rear legroom - there isn't any

Sat in the back of a mates surf last week. Hardly any legroom at all.

Probably OK if only putting kids in the back though.

When my 1987 Range Rover dies I think I'll go out and buy another one for about 2.5k

You just have to ignore the bits falling off
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Old 07 November 2005, 17:10   #23
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Sat in the back of a mates surf last week. Hardly any legroom at all.

Probably OK if only putting kids in the back though.

When my 1987 Range Rover dies I think I'll go out and buy another one for about 2.5k

You just have to ignore the bits falling off
Humm, things seem to be pointing to the Trooper - good legroom there!

I did seriously consider the rangie I found on eBay, but aside from all the abuse I'd get from being a student with a Range Rover, I decided that even if by some miracle I could afford the car (it was 10 years old, and fairly cheap!) I'd never be able to afford to maintain and run it!
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Old 07 November 2005, 17:20   #24
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Andy,might be a red heron but a mate of mine had a delicia diesel and struggled to get better then 20 mpg out of it and he didnt tow,last time I saw him,he was going to get it looked at.
There is a common problem these and it's to do with an EGR valve (recirculates the exhast gases for better EEM's) this valve sticks open and the engine effectivley chokes it's self to death on the exhaust. Just get him to rip it off and replace it with a blanking plate (look at EGR plate on Ebay) She'll go like a rocket after.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mitsubishi-Paj...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 07 November 2005, 17:21   #25
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Humm, things seem to be pointing to the Trooper - good legroom there!

I did seriously consider the rangie I found on eBay, but aside from all the abuse I'd get from being a student with a Range Rover, I decided that even if by some miracle I could afford the car (it was 10 years old, and fairly cheap!) I'd never be able to afford to maintain and run it!
If you buy a Discovery or Range Rover without air suspension etc they they are dirt cheap to maintain - as long as you do the work yourself. The parts are so cheap it is amazing - especially as they are so much more robust than normal cars.

Petrol ones ARE scary to run - but you can often find them converted to LPG - the power and smoothnes of a V8 petrol with the running costs of a diesel.BARGAIN!!!

To be honest I would much rather rely on my land rover than any other vehicle - even if something went wrong I can fix it myself and the parts costs are no problem.
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Andy,might be a red heron but a mate of mine .
This smells a bit fishy to me!
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Herons not Herrings....You Kipper
Eh what sorry pardon

BADGER!!

(sorry, long story, weymouth, sailing, too much wind, pubs, etc etc)
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Any Plus's on the Vauxhall?
For a few years now the Frontera has been a different vehicle to the old Isusu/Monterey.

A large vehicle for the engine size. Independent front suspension so nothing like the joggley ride of many 4x4's.
Normal mode is 2 wheel (rear) drive so saves a drop of fuel. 60mph along a potholed road gives a surprisingly good ride.

Actually, although I've owned a few Landrover vehicles and I'm still not a great fan, what you need is a disco cos you'll get a good one for 4k and the upkeep is very cheap and getting cheaper. (DIYing) You can even get replacement CV's for 40quid. If you pick up a pre-electronic 2.5TD that can further prevent big bills. Given that you're likely to be dipping it into the sea, willingly or by necessity, you don't want to be rusting big money away.
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Actually fronteras aren't that bad - damn site better offroad than most of the Jap stuff anyway.
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