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Old 26 August 2004, 05:36   #61
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Thanks, Alan, for your very helpful, considered reply which sums up pretty much what I had found out by doing a few searches on Google. Obviously, we need to consider all the options and hope to come to a decision soon.

Also, thanks for your support, Neal.
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Old 26 August 2004, 05:41   #62
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Any legal bods out there?

Am I right in thinking that the whole public liability stuff comes in because it's fee-paying? Could we organise a non-fee-paying treasure hunt and then just have a collection for charity in the pub afterwards, when we give out the prizes?

Can anyone advise please?
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Old 26 August 2004, 06:05   #63
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Am I right in thinking that the whole public liability stuff comes in because it's fee-paying? Could we organise a non-fee-paying treasure hunt and then just have a collection for charity in the pub afterwards, when we give out the prizes?
I'm not legal but thats what I was thinking.
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In what way am I not being fair?
You're female, aren't you?

I'm working at the boat show until Friday, so if you require safety cover, let me know. The normal fee for providing a fully equipped paramedic crewed safety boat is 465 but seeing as I know you, I'll settle for a packet of dolly mixtures, a sherbert dip and the answers to the clues, thank you.

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Huge thanks, Dave. That's a very generous offer. I've since found out that Sue (co-organiser) is a qualified first aider so I reckon with the two of you on board we'll be the safest group of boats around that day! I'll drop you a PM.

We're still considering how we are going to proceed but are all agreed that we are not going to give up without exploring all options. We still need more research/advice into whether we can run the day legally without public liability insurance. Can anybody point me to a good legal advice site/person?

Once again, many thanks to everyone who has offered their advice, support and ideas. Keep watching this thread!

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You're female, aren't you?

I'm working at the boat show until Friday, so if you require safety cover, let me know. The normal fee for providing a fully equipped paramedic crewed safety boat is 465 but seeing as I know you, I'll settle for a packet of dolly mixtures, a sherbert dip and the answers to the clues, thank you.

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Big hand to you Dave, I don't care what other people say I think your a gent!
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We still need more research/advice into whether we can run the day legally without public liability insurance. Once again, many thanks to everyone who has offered their advice, support and ideas.
Regarding the above...another thing that might be helpful might be a copy of the Risk Assessment we use at work for the involvement of children in activities (especially hazardous activities)?

I'd be happy to get it to you once I'm back in the office this week. (Also to go over it with you/the team too beforehand if you wish?)

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Thank you for the offer, and of course we will be doing all we can to ensure everyone is as 'safe' as possible, but I don't see why you think so much 'paperwork' is required? After all, we don't do formal risk assessments and take out public liability insurance every time we go out cruising in company, do we? This is not an educational activity, nor is it open to the 'general public'. I would be interested to hear others' views on this, especially anyone with a legal background who can give me a definitive answer, please.

I would like to know: at what point does an informal gathering of friends for a day of fun become a formal 'event' requiring copious amounts of paperwork and money going to third parties in order to insure against possible litigation? Can any of us ever again post cruise ideas or is that too risky now as we might be sued if something goes wrong? STAND BY TO CLOSE DOWN THE CRUISING SECTION, JK!!

P.S. In my previous occupation, as I'm sure you're aware, I became acquainted with such policies/documents and have ready access to them, but thank you anyway.
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IMHO there is a world of difference, legally and liability wise in a bunch of people on rib.net saying "lets meet up on sat on the solent" and someone saying "i am organising an event, pay me x to attend (although for a good cause)". As event organisers you have both a duty of care and a risk of liability if something goes wrong.

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I think what Alan's pointed out is highly relevant. ( I was responding to your request for support BTW but ultimately it is of course up to you . )

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But as we will not be charging anyone to attend (favourite idea is a charity collection afterwards), surely this is now just an informal gathering?
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