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25 March 2011, 19:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Devon
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What to get for around £11000?
Hi all,
I have been looking at the 5m area and really want a ribcraft 4.8m but they are too pricey new and second hand seem to be non existent. Further manufacters i have looked into are Humber and ribquest. All are commercial bias boats because i prefer the look.
So am open to any suggestions ideas about other makers or models, anyone know of any good deals going (could poss stretch budget a bit for right boat)
Requirements:-
Would like to use for skiing if poss
Bit of fishing
General cruising
All year round use including rougher winter months.
I know questions like this are common place on here so i am sorry but any help would be appreciated.
Many thanks
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25 March 2011, 20:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salisbury
Boat name: Blue C
Make: XS 600
Length: 6m +
Engine: 125hp Opti
MMSI: 235082826/235909566
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,439
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Hows about a XS460 with 40Hp mercury?
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25 March 2011, 20:04
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#3
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Devon
Length: no boat
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Thanks for the prompt reply, would prefer something with a bit more go something up around the 60hp mark i think, nice boat though.
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25 March 2011, 20:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
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25 March 2011, 20:07
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: River Hamble
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 726
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What about the tough RS we just had a great review in rib mag
http://www.rib-shop.com/prodtype.asp...ageHistory=cat
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25 March 2011, 21:00
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,603
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ribandlandy
Hi all,
I have been looking at the 5m area and really want a ribcraft 4.8m but they are too pricey new and second hand seem to be non existent. Further manufacters i have looked into are Humber and Ribquest. All are commercial bias boats because i prefer the look.
So am open to any suggestions ideas about other makers or models, anyone know of any good deals going (could poss stretch budget a bit for right boat)
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You're exactly where I was probably a couple of years ago. I used to have a Zodiac Pro, which to be fair was a great rib, but in ideally for the Mediterranean on account of the shallow V hull.
With the Pro sold, I looked for a boat that wouldn't break the bank, could take a mid-sized outboard, fitted in the average domestic garage, and had a decent V hull so my backside stayed on the seat instead of being permanently airborne!
Your choices are good. Ribquest make a fantastic 4.8m commercial, and their attention to detail is fantastic. I took a trip down to Sheffield and spoke to their owner Dave Rose, who was very knowledgable, and clearly passionate about the boats he builds. Unfortunately, their products come at a price. The Ribquest 4.8m, with Suzuki DF50 fully rigged with electrics are about £15k. You can of course buy a basic boat and rig it yourself, something that's worth considering. Incidentally, it's a well-build boat, and as a result is a little on the heavy side compared to your other choices.
Looked at Humber, especially the Ocean Pro 2.1m beam. Prices were okay, but by the time you add in a double jockey console, trailer, and the usual extras the costs were rising.
In the end I opted for a RIBcraft 4.8m. I won't go into the hassle I had when I bought it, but suffice to say they came good in the end and have built me a boat that's robust, well finished and came within budget.
I wasn't RIBcraft's typical customer when I bought my RIB. 99% of their customers are buying the full bells and whistles packages, and that's where they make their profit.
My advice is to buy your RIB of choice, but rig it yourself. There are others that will tell you to buy a new engine and second-hand boat. I'm the reverse as I service the engine myself, so feel confident enough to buy second-hand.
Without the engine and electrics, the price for a new RIB and trailer suddenly becomes very competitive. Just remember you'll need to source an engine at some point and rig it yourself.
Any more details - feel free to PM me.
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25 March 2011, 21:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 196
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I am looking to buy a new rib and my budget is exactly same as yours. But I am looking for something over 6.5m length and I have come to this conclusion that I may save more money!!!
From what I have seen so far, you can buy a brand NEW Humber with a Brand New 4 stroke outboard suitable for water skiing. But it will be a Humber Assault. It is Cat C so you are kind of limited "insurance wise!!".
I have owned many boats and having a brand new boat+outboard will give you at least 3-4 GOOD Memorable boating seasons without difficulty, or wasting time just sorting our problem...
I have owned 3 Humbers, they are Simple (sometimes ugly!) BUT reliable and very stable at sea.
As for the engine, go for something that you can find the parts easily at your local marina (or where you more often go boating). so if there is a local Honda dealer go for Honda, it saves you a lot of time and hassle. Yamaha and Honda are very easy to maintain in the UK, but a bit expensive. Mercury/Mariner (I have never owned one), AND AVOID Evinrude pre 2004. The E-Tec one are OK, but I have seen a couple of them with ECU failure after 3 years...
There are good Ribeyes on the market (2nd hand). But again, I am reluctant to recommend a 2nd hand boat whilst you can get a brand new one with your budget.
You may also consider buying the rib and outboard separately (if you are buying brand new), as you will get the best deal usually.
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25 March 2011, 21:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Devon
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Thanks for the replies,
As for rigging it myself i am not too confident on doing this just through fear of the unknown not through inability!
I was quoted 16 thousand odd for the ribcraft 4.8 which had double jockey and 2" a frame with a 60hp zuke but cant really afford that.
Vandad - when referring to new boats for my budget - which ones are they, i cant seem to find any (not from my choices anyway)
I dont mind buying second hand but the two 4.8 (ribcraft and ribquest) are hardly about anywhere!
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25 March 2011, 21:29
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: west mids /tywyn
Boat name: HAWK
Make: RIBCRAFT/ Suzuki 250
Length: 7m +
Engine: Tohatsu 3.8/15hpsuzi
MMSI: 235086594
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,270
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I dont mind buying second hand but the two 4.8 (ribcraft and ribquest) are hardly about anywhere!
the best 2 rib makers out there
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25 March 2011, 22:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ribandlandy
Vandad - when referring to new boats for my budget - which ones are they, i cant seem to find any (not from my choices anyway)
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Look at this:
http://www.ribworld.co.uk/ribs-detail.asp?testid=284
It says £13.5k, it comes from Humber company directly and has a Suzuki (I love these engines, they are damn quiet...buggers!). I bet they give it for around £12.5k, and you don't have to go to them if you don't want to. Order a Brand New Humber Assault which is around £6k: http://www.ribworld.co.uk/ribs-detail.asp?testid=475
Then buy a Brand New 50hp from Honda for around £5k: http://www.youngsboatyard.co.uk/prod...t-with-Remotes or get a Mariner/Mercury higher HP even cheaper.
Then spend a good weekend installing them all or take them to your local marine engineer and they should do it for like £100 - £200 MAX!
If you see you are short of like £1k to buy a decent package (either new or 2nd hand), either wait to have a fund ready or find it from somewhere (and show me where too!!!!).
I have a very bad experience of buying a 2nd hand boat once when I was on tight budget and it really ruined my whole summer. I spent more time fixing things than enjoyig the boat....
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25 March 2011, 22:43
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin, Ireland
Boat name: Voodoo1
Make: Piranha
Length: 5m +
Engine: new Suzuki DF90
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 90
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Try Piranha ribs.. I have one myself! Great value for money, plenty of different size boats and packages too! I'm extremely happy with mine..
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26 March 2011, 09:42
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,603
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vandad
Then spend a good weekend installing them all or take them to your local marine engineer and they should do it for like £100 - £200 MAX!
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You might find someone to drill the holes on the transom and attach the outboard for £100+, but fully rigged, with all electrics and fuel, and steering is going to be a lot more. As a rough guide, RIBcraft and Ribquest charge up to £500 for this.
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26 March 2011, 12:06
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
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A customer of ours recently bought a 6m RIB with the same budget as yours, 6 years old with a very clean four stroke and nice electronics package.
They are out there, you just need to look hard and haggle like a Moroccan.
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26 March 2011, 17:58
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Devon
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Thanks for all the replies, i see all have different ideas!
I am looking everywhere at different sites etc for boats - could someone shed some light on the Evinrude range of engines especially the etec ones?? how do you rate them compared to the other manufacturers??
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26 March 2011, 18:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
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I've never owned one so this isn't a 'mine's best' response ![roll eyes](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif) The Etec does seem very highly regarded and is possibly the best of the bunch at the moment.
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26 March 2011, 20:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
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This may be a bit vague, but I've got a Ribcraft 4.8 which I may be looking to replace with something bigger (too small for the family now) in the next couple of months.
It's a 2005 with a Suzuki DF60 and has very, very low hours (around 50-60). Original owner had it for a year and bought it with lots of extras (under deck fuel tank, wing seats, A frame, nav lights, VHF, GPS/fishfinder, custom made complete cover). It's in very good condition and has spent most of its life stored in the garage (but is now in our drive with the cover). Complete with unbraked trailer with removeable drawbar (to fit in garage!)
Drop me a PM if you want to stay in touch and I'll let you know when I'm in a position to sell.
Gerry
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27 March 2011, 20:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Err...
Any chance you lot could stop squabbling like a flock of cluck hens and help answer our new member's original questions?
This is it in case you've forgotten
Quote:
Originally Posted by ribandlandy
Hi all,
I have been looking at the 5m area and really want a ribcraft 4.8m but they are too pricey new and second hand seem to be non existent. Further manufacters i have looked into are Humber and ribquest. All are commercial bias boats because i prefer the look.
So am open to any suggestions ideas about other makers or models, anyone know of any good deals going (could poss stretch budget a bit for right boat)
Requirements:-
Would like to use for skiing if poss
Bit of fishing
General cruising
All year round use including rougher winter months.
I know questions like this are common place on here so i am sorry but any help would be appreciated.
Many thanks
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27 March 2011, 21:30
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,626
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kernow
Err...
Any chance you lot could stop squabbling like a flock of cluck hens and help answer our new member's original questions?
This is it in case you've forgotten ![roll eyes](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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I put my pinny on for you, and the RCD insurance "debate" is now here.
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27 March 2011, 21:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
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28 March 2011, 09:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: Sweet Chariot
Make: Ribcraft 5.85m
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF140
MMSI: 235065385
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 45
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Hi i can echo sparticus. I hab a 4.8 meter rib (great little boat) and then i bought a 5.8 ribcraft boat only. I asked Jason at ribcraft to supply me with all the other parts i required ie engine and riging ( almost like a flat pack mfi system) and did the work myself, reduced the cost for myself and enjoyed the process of putting thing in how i wanted them. I must admit i have the advantage of ribcraft only being ten miles from me.
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