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Old 30 November 2012, 15:36   #1
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Shipping rib to Australia

I am moving to Australia next year and I'm taking my rib with me! Has anyone done this and if so have any advice. The only thing I have been able to find out is that I need a permit for the trailer, I can not find anything out about the boat itself and the outboard.
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Old 30 November 2012, 18:28   #2
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They generally don't allow Ribs to be shipped over to Australia.

I would have thought it best to donate it to a local charity but they would probably want it re-engined first.

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Old 30 November 2012, 19:18   #3
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Old 30 November 2012, 20:43   #4
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Hi Keith,

Yes, you need an import permit for your trailer. This is considered a "vehicle" and will be allotted it's own registration and will need to be taxed (rego) each year. You will need to get breakaway chains attached (cheaper in UK ?). Mine needed LED lights on the side due to the length but you should be ok. It will need to go over the pits for inspection though they didn't check the efficiency of my brakes.

The boat will need a HIN and then need to be registered and taxed each year. I got $180 ticket from the water police on New Year's Day this year for having an out of date rego. Happy bloody new year to you also officer. We were on our way to a waterside restaurant for lunch and the miserable buggers made me recover the boat straight away. I didn't argue as there were already a few empties in the well.

Obviously get everything scrupulously clean so AQIS can't find any issue with it. Customs deflated my tubes searching for drugs.

I had to pay a valuer to inspect my boat as they had no frame of reference 6 years ago (that's changing now and you see quite a few ribs around) so it would be worth you getting a low valuation prior to shipping.

I would suggest you ship any trailer spares that you will forseeably use.

Finally you will need a Recreational Skippers Ticket, so bring along any qualifications you have as you may be exempt from sitting the exam.

Where are you moving to ?
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Old 30 November 2012, 22:09   #5
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The boat will need a HIN
What happens if the boat doesn't have a HIN?

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Old 30 November 2012, 22:38   #6
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What happens if the boat doesn't have a HIN?
I own a rib and a sib here in the US (California) both without HIN (Arancia from NZ and Willard Ex-US Navy). A mess to register if the registrar at the Deptartment of Motor Vehicles doesn't know what they are doing. They end up assigning me a new HIN.

Yes, off topic as to AUS, but I felt like need to type something tonight....
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I'll get in early...welcome to Australia.

My boat is a 95 Zodiac and didn't have a HIN, I think any thing built before ???2005 ( don't hold me to that, it could be earlier ) doesn't require a HIN. There is a lot of information in the state govt websites, it all depends on what state you are moving to for registration requirements.
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I'm going through the same process at the moment and quite honestly it's a mine field!
I was going to buy a new UK trailer before shipping the RIB, but that has many issues...so I'm going to buy an Aus made one when I get there.
There's enough paperwork just for our own visas, let alone the cars and boat so I'm going to use iron lady imports for both the cars and the boat. They will do all the paperwork for you (for a price), but at least it'll be done properly.

Well see you in Perth in March!

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Old 01 December 2012, 04:54   #9
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Bittentobuggery is spot on.

You need to find a competent shipping company and a very competent customs broker to deal with it once it arrives in Australia.

They should tell you that:

1 The trailer permit is very important.

2 No marine growth or water in bilge or tanks as there could be bugs in it. Also any wood needs to be assessed if it needs to be fumigated before it gets here.

3 If any duty will need to be paid. Depends on country of origin of major components and if new or used.

4 Taxes. Our version of vat is gst and is only 10% but it is on everything, the value of the boat, the trailer, the shipping cost, the brokers costs and any duty payable.

Where costs blow out quickly and exponentially is once it is landed. If there are delays, and there often are, you will be charged holding costs and all sorts of inspection fees. Having a good customs broker on board before it gets loaded on your end will help reduce these costs.

The trailer may need some minor modifications once here to comply, maybe not. 2.5m max width unless you want special towing permits every time you move it.

If you are coming to Sydney, would be glad to help.
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Don't stress about the HIN. It is just another fee. They will either validate your existing one or issue you a new one.

Shipping with a trailer makes it much easier to pick up from the docks. Unless it is over width, modifying will not cost much, been there done that.
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Makes you wonder if, by the time you've added all the costs up, it's better to sell the boat here & buy another in Oz. Bearing in mind that they are going to charge you an additional 10% gst on top of the 17.5-20% VAT that you've already paid. By the time youv'e got the boat there it's value has bombed. I've no idea what a similar setup would cost in Oz, so I might be talking bollix as per
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Old 01 December 2012, 05:58   #12
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hi guys,
Thanks for your replies so far.

Mitch
Doing the same as you going to scrap trailer when it gets to Aus. Only using it to get the boat out there as the trailer is old. Shipping boat in container with all our furniture, will talk to iron chief as he is dealing with our car.

Can anyone out in Aus recommend a good multi-roller trailer without a keel roller.

Moving to the Mornington peninsular Melbourne.

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Old 01 December 2012, 06:37   #13
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Most of the Oz trailers seem to be keel roller type although there are a few "roller coaster" type.
I've got a list of manufacturers which I'll post when I get home.
I've narrowed it down to two makes but can't remember the names....
It seems The difficult bit is bringing a uk trailer to Oz and then scrapping it straight away...getting the new trailer to the port to replace the uk one seems to be an issue.
Unfortunately our rib won't fit in a container so it has to RORO....we were told it wouldn't be easy but as an equivalent boat would be $35-40k I will work through the problems...

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Dave- we have been planning the move for the last couple of years, I have a Humber 6.5m dive pro which is very much commercial looking. All that is available in oz is family type ribs which have a lot of seating and as Mitch has said the cost is stupid. I originally paid 6000 for it 10 years ago and put a new df140 on it 2 years ago at a cost of 6100. Taking everything into consideration I am still saving a lot of money.
Mitch- the best trailer I have found so far is a dunbier sr6.2-13tb.
Chris- when you come over to visit southern exposure the cost of you accommodation has tripled!!! :-)

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Most of the Oz trailers seem to be keel roller type although there are a few "roller coaster" type.
I've got a list of manufacturers which I'll post when I get home.
I've narrowed it down to two makes but can't remember the names....
It seems The difficult bit is bringing a uk trailer to Oz and then scrapping it straight away...getting the new trailer to the port to replace the uk one seems to be an issue.
Unfortunately our rib won't fit in a container so it has to RORO....we were told it wouldn't be easy but as an equivalent boat would be $35-40k I will work through the problems...

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I used to ship Mig fighters in 40' containers. We used to build sleds to mount the parts on and then slide them into the container.(we made a crossmember that fitted across the container and using a snatch block, we could winch them into place). You could always mount the rib tipped on it ear on a sled with the widest section across the tubes sitting diagonally so it fits through the door opening diagonally. That way it could go in a 40' container along with furniture etc in a sealed container. Less chance of pilfering etc? Then buy a trailer out there.
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Most of the Oz trailers seem to be keel roller type although there are a few "roller coaster" type.
I've got a list of manufacturers which I'll post when I get home.
I've narrowed it down to two makes but can't remember the names....
It seems The difficult bit is bringing a uk trailer to Oz and then scrapping it straight away...getting the new trailer to the port to replace the uk one seems to be an issue.
Unfortunately our rib won't fit in a container so it has to RORO....we were told it wouldn't be easy but as an equivalent boat would be $35-40k I will work through the problems...

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Won't fit in even with tubes deflated?
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Won't fit in even with tubes deflated?
Door aperture into a 40ft container is 2.28mt, Kestrel's beam is 2.65 inflated.
I've not had chance to fully deflate the tubes but it'll be mighty close to not fitting.
It's also just over 7mts long on the trailer, so it's be a container all to its self.
The import agents are checking costs, but we think RORO is the best option.
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Door aperture into a 40ft container is 2.28mt, Kestrel's beam is 2.65 inflated.
I've not had chance to fully deflate the tubes but it'll be mighty close to not fitting.
You might be surprised. I didn't think I'd get my 7.8m through the gates into the garden (measured it and everything) - but deflating the tubes makes a massive difference. The boat will typically be a tube diameter narrower, so unless you have tiny tubes (less than 40cm dia) then it might fit...
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I've got a list of manufacturers which I'll post when I get home.
I've narrowed it down to two makes but can't remember the names....

Try these, they are the most helpful of the ones I contacted,

www.mackaytrailers.com
Their roller coaster equivalent is the PU57T-13-M - $6,872.00 – Tandem axle trailer rated to carry 1999kgs (trailer, boat and any other equipment) – Multi Roller Series
It's just under the 2000kg where you need electro-hydraulic brakes.
The PDF attached show some details


Others I contacted were:
www.trailit.com.au
www.easytow.com.au
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