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16 June 2011, 16:26
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"you can slip knot up a length of rope and use that as painter - a knotted rope this way is about 4 times shorter!"
I'm not with you sorry. What do you mean by this? 4 times shorter than what? Something 4 times it's length I'm guessing........
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16 June 2011, 16:58
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I use a large length with lots of special slip knots on it to make it shorter than boat....I am 90 miles away from boat so can't post picture...it's a series of loops and you pull it the loops come out but you lock it off...
regards
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16 June 2011, 16:59
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he means that you could put a 15m bow line on, and do a chain knot along it to make it physically 5 metres long unless you undo the chain.
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16 June 2011, 17:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyC
he means that you could put a 15m bow line on, and do a chain knot along it to make it physically 5 metres long unless you undo the chain.
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perfect description ...you understood Scott! a rare skill!
Scott
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16 June 2011, 17:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
Ian, LyamGalpin is actually suggesting the RYA say the opposite - that it should be 1.5x boat length.
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Ooops ![Whistling](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/whistling.gif)
Maybe, maybe not, but my painter will remain shorter than the boat length!
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16 June 2011, 18:10
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W had 4m ropes provided when we bought our first boat new. They were absolutely useless except when using a pontoon. Not too sure what length the grey ropes that came with the VM are. I will check next time but I'm sure it is longer than 7m. We carry all the ropes from the old boat in the (cavernous) anchor locker, so thats 3x 4m, 3x8m and an assortment of other odds and ends. In a towing situation we are lucky to have the ski pole, and we have a 30m warp for towing use or for the kedge anchor. Main is 47m (asked for 60 and shop ran out....) + 8m 8mm chain I think.
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16 June 2011, 21:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LyamGalpin
Or you just use a bit of common sense and secure all lines once you've moved away.
Those lengths are the recommended lengths laid down by the RYA
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Exactly.
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17 June 2011, 06:37
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Aha! Thanx Tony, makes sense now.
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19 June 2011, 00:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Screaming04
Exactly.
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Never heard of Sods Law?
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19 June 2011, 01:22
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
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Yes... I have twins! 1 for the bow line, one to get me home...haha
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19 June 2011, 09:18
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Quote:
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Yes... I have twins! 1 for the bow line, one to get me home...haha
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25 June 2011, 23:02
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Well today proved a point. It was one of those days when I decided to go out, and Mrs Nature added about 15 knots to the wind between when I decided to and when I actually went. I was glad to have the lines already rigged on the boat as after launch I had a job getting close enough to the pontoon and staying there long enough to grab anything to tie up, not often I put all three lines on the boat when I'm only leaving it for 5 min to pull the trailer out.
After I had been out for quite a while, I glanced across at the port side to see the forward line had worked loose where the end was tied off to the A frame, and become detached by the bouncing around (it hadn't been used today as I was starboard side to - in fact it probably hadn't been touched for a couple of months) and it was trailing in the water from the forward cleat.
About two feet short of the prop, so no problem
Not a day I would have wished to have had a prop/rope incident. Shorter is better
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