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Old 22 January 2005, 23:18   #1
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Not worth the hassle

Selling bits on the internet, is I've decided just not worth the hassle.

In December I sent somebody on this forum a prop for them to try before they paid for it, and the post office lost it, I'm still trying to get the insured value out of the post office as they can't establish where it went missing.
A good deed thats backfired on me and I'm out of pocket.

In recent times Ive had people cancel cheques the day they sent them, I've been sent a fake Building Society cheque, and a cheque from an account that the buyer closed months before. Thats without all the people that wanted to buy my old boat without seeing it, and wanted to send me a cheque for too much so I could refund the differance.

Now I've sold a gauge to a guy on Boats and Outboards and I'm getting some e-mails with attitude because I won't sent him the gauge before I've received the cheque.

As I said its not worth the grief for a small amout of beer money, it can all fester in my garage.

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Old 23 January 2005, 00:06   #2
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Nasher,

Cheer up old boy, set up a webcam (pay per view) in your old garage where all that stuff is festering and people can log and you'll get rich. You might have to jazz it up a bit with random walk-ons from "Nashers Sirens" now and then, oh then there's the calendar at crimbo run off on a cheap colour lazer.

In no time at all you'll be feeling you old self.
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Old 23 January 2005, 00:11   #3
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That's the trouble these days the internet has made things soooo easy that unfortunately it's also left a gaping wide hole that can be abused by a sad but annoying few.

I've had all sorts of problems with buyers and sellers on ebay and the likes and have given up.........your right it just isn't worth the grief/hassle!

I ended up being about £1200 out of pocket through and Amazon scam that whilst it all came with a guarentee and I did my back ground checks first, it all went t*t's up!

Although I'd got a reseller guarentee from Amazon it ain't worth the web page it's printed on. My lawyer advised to look at it as a learning experience as it would cost me 1000's to try and win a case for negligence.

Someone some where has this sewn up and is laughing their ruddy 'eds off!
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Old 23 January 2005, 08:19   #4
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As I said its not worth the grief for a small amout of beer money, it can all fester in my garage.

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Sell all the bits to me for my RIB build I won't stitch you up.

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Old 23 January 2005, 08:23   #5
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For every bad story there's a good one. I purchased my precious Yamaha 200 VMAX over the net. Bought it used from a dealer in Canada and had it flown to Cork. The vendor could not have been more professional.

The unit was sent in a factory shipping crate with all the bits for rigging right down to the mounting bolts and connectors for the control cables. He even threw in a prop and couple of base ball caps from the dealership. After charging me Canadian sales tax by mistake he refunded my credit card upon proof of export.

Easy peasy, and the best bit was the engine was only ever run in fresh water.

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Old 23 January 2005, 11:09   #6
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I understand where people are coming from on this one, I was scammed for a £300 computer on eBay a while back. All seemed like a genuine deal, and the seller had absolutely huge feedback ratings, but then vanished with the cash.

That said, I have had over 40 very happy eBay transactions in my time, and a few outside of eBay. One chap even sent me his item before I'd even written the cheque!

Ah well, some you win, some you loose.
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Old 23 January 2005, 12:14   #7
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unfortunatly there are a select few that abuse the trust of others and use the internet. you should always state that you will not release anything sold until you have cleared funds in your account. so far this attitude has always worked for me. oh and always state you are not resposable for goods lost in post, i always keep proof of postage. hope this helps
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Selling bits on the internet, is I've decided just not worth the hassle.

In December I sent somebody on this forum a prop for them to try before they paid for it, and the post office lost it, I'm still trying to get the insured value out of the post office as they can't establish where it went missing.
A good deed thats backfired on me and I'm out of pocket.

Nasher.
A kind favour from Nasher turned out to be a complete pain in the arse for him, bloody royal mail haven't got a clue. I have no idea how they could physically manage to loose a prop! Without accusing any postmen or women the prop must have been stolen from within the organisation because there is no way something can be lost on recorded delivery.
The Royal Mail is obviously a disaster area anyway, it always amazes me how a company with a monopoly can record a loss!

Rant over!

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Old 23 January 2005, 13:52   #9
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In no time at all you'll be feeling you old self.

I guess that depends on the sirens attitude really
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Old 24 January 2005, 10:13   #10
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I've bought a few bits and bobs over the internet but I`ve never released the goods until I`ve got cleared cash. More to the point I'd never expect anybody to send me the items if I`d not paid for it.

Perhaps I`m too cynical but one bad experience can cloud ones opinion forever.

Incidently if you ever buy of sell a boat never ask for cash or a bankers draft as payment. A same day wire transfer is the safest way to transfer it.

It cost 20 quid and is worth it for the piece of mind.

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Old 24 January 2005, 11:57   #11
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I shop on the internet quite a bit, i see two methods really

1) As with lots of bits i have purchased from marine suppliers, the web site asks for payment details, which obivoulsy get checked before the good are sent - i have never had any problems in this method

2) people selling bits, no matter if its the web, paper ..... cash in bank first then send

other points

Title does not change until payment is cashed
What happens if you send money and recieve nothing, this gets many people. Most time now you can use paypal as an audit.

i just buy from trusted sources, integrity is everything
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Old 26 January 2005, 09:05   #12
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I've used ebay over 300 times and have never ended up out of pocket. I think if you use Paypal your normally quite well protected.......

What's wrong with using cash for a sale? Unless the "buyer" mugs you and drives off with boat and money you can't loose?
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Old 26 January 2005, 09:32   #13
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Jono at PPT uses the ebay quite abit. I wonder how he has found it.
I sell on e bay and the web and always have cash in hand or cleared cheque first.
Currently selling the Disco TD5 in autotrader for £12500 and someone emailed me offering £20,000!!! It will arrive by courier.....then I have to send £6000.oo to ........yea yea yea..... so I e mailed back saying I had sold it to another con man who got there first!!!!!
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