Buying fuel in jerry cans

Solent Ribman · 19 October 2009, 20:27

In recent times in the Solent area we have had some problems filling Jerry Cans. Asda at Fareham has a rule you can only fill 10L max. A very officious [ex WWII man I expect] accosted us and made sure we didn't take more than we were allowed! At an Esso garage there is a sign, saying you can only fill 10L unless you produce a fuel storage licence, then you can have 25L. Anyone know what the law is? If a licence is required, where do you apply and what storage facilities at a residential address do you have to provide?

m chappelow · 19 October 2009, 20:32

hi s/r this discusion was brought up in depth a few months ago on a thread somewhere back .the local council used to issue licences ,not too sure but i dont think residental properties would get one as there are quite strict regulations from what i remember ,

Downhilldai · 19 October 2009, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Solent Ribman

A very officious [ex WWII man I expect]...

So, you were accosted by a veteran soldier in his 80s?

SPR · 19 October 2009, 20:58

RYA Published guidelines here

http://www.rya.org.uk/sitecollection...F%20PETROL.pdf

S.

TonyC · 19 October 2009, 21:09

I think it all depends on what Council your in.

We used to have a licence to store up to 100ltrs ? of petrolem at the Centre, until we had a letter telling us that we no longer needed a licence due to the quantity our licence was for.

For info - this is what Cardiff CC stated were their proposed licensing conditions in 2007:

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1.12 Suitable container means: -
• a metal container satisfying the constructional and labelling requirements of the Petroleum-Spirit (Motor Vehicles etc) Regulations 1929; or
• a plastic container satisfying the constructional and labelling requirements of the Petroleum-Spirit (Plastic Containers) Regulations 1982; or
• a demountable fuel tank of a motor boat or similar vessel; or
• a United Nations approved container for the carriage of petrol.

Rogue Wave · 19 October 2009, 21:22

Your'e lucky nowadays to be able to get 2 cans filled atthe pumps. There is an obvious way around that problem however but you have to be a night owl

Nasher · 19 October 2009, 21:24

I regularly fill 4 x 20l cans at Morrisons in Horndean without a problem, but thats probably due to the staff not knowing what they are doing more than anything.

Nasher

Nos4r2 · 19 October 2009, 21:37

'pay at pump' has a lot going for it

TonyC · 19 October 2009, 22:23

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

'pay at pump' has a lot going for it

I'll second that. Needed fuel quickly to top the boat off for a PB course, so popped into Morrisons - "Sorry, you can't fill metal petrol cans up, only plastic ones"

So I went next door and used Tescos Pay @ Pump instead

Rogue Wave · 19 October 2009, 22:31

Well gone boys!

Scousedeli · 20 October 2009, 09:03

We used to have that problem as well, the problem is how they are licensed to sell the fuel, max container size is 10lt never heard about the plastic bit thou just thought it had to be a approved fuel can. In the end we started getting fuel from the council depot, the max we could get then was 100lt in 5x20lt jerry cans in the back of a land rover 90 pick up, otherwise the driver has to be ADR qualified, the driver also had to wear steel toe cap boots, high viz jacket have access to a fire extinguisher, absorbant granules, brush and shovel.

At one point we had a tesco card and was using a trailer with 3 x 25 gallon drums highly illegal we discovered.

HTH

Lee

PeterM · 20 October 2009, 10:19

I've had problems , but rather then trying to be 'safe' and getting told off . I now leave the 3 x 25l tanks in the boot of the car.

As no-one can see what I am doing, no-one tries to come and stop me. If I take the tanks out & put them on the floor where they can be seen I've had people run out and 'check' what I am doing and then refuse to sell me petrol.

Oddly the RYA thingy seems to make referance to if you are driving a van over a car - pointless !

Observer · 20 October 2009, 11:04

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Originally Posted by Blackroady

I've had problems , but rather then trying to be 'safe' and getting told off . I now leave the 3 x 25l tanks in the boot of the car.

As no-one can see what I am doing, no-one tries to come and stop me. If I take the tanks out & put them on the floor where they can be seen I've had people run out and 'check' what I am doing and then refuse to sell me petrol.

Or use a garage where the car is between the pump and the kiosk. Keep the empty cans behind the front seats and fill them at the (sheltered) side of the car rather than the back. Once the fuel is in the cans they're hardly likely to try and take it back.

codprawn · 20 October 2009, 15:51

Just use a local petrol station and chat up the bints working in it - never get a problem then!!!

Maximus · 20 October 2009, 19:28

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Just use a local petrol station and chat up the bints working in it - never get a problem then!!!

Would agree,never had a problem..But 'Bints'..'BINTS!? How blinkin old are you? I thought you were in the 'First flush of youth' Codders.. [Like me!]

Mike B · 20 October 2009, 19:39

i've never had any problem around Cardiff or down in west wales.

i think that discretion is the key and don't flaunt it.

the one time I did get challenged a confident "ah those rules are for CONTAINERS these are TANKS you must be able to fill these or you wouldn't be able to let any cars fill up?"

Not sure it would always work though!

JABS · 20 October 2009, 20:05

Had the same problem buying LPG for the caravan. Some stations go mad when you try to fill portable tanks. I had a prblem once, at a Texaco station and ended up with LPG hising out all over the place. Frightened the whatsit out of me. The attendant came out to HELP! Now I always go there!

By the way, a £18 Calor fill costs about £4.00! Really worthwhile!

Downhilldai · 20 October 2009, 20:17

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Originally Posted by JABS

By the way, a £18 Calor fill costs about £4.00! Really worthwhile!

And the pump price is taxed as road fuel.

codprawn · 20 October 2009, 20:52

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Originally Posted by Maximus

Would agree,never had a problem..But 'Bints'..'BINTS!? How blinkin old are you? I thought you were in the 'First flush of youth' Codders.. [Like me!]

Watching too many old films - especially Carry On!!!

codprawn · 20 October 2009, 20:53

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Originally Posted by JABS

Had the same problem buying LPG for the caravan. Some stations go mad when you try to fill portable tanks. I had a prblem once, at a Texaco station and ended up with LPG hising out all over the place. Frightened the whatsit out of me. The attendant came out to HELP! Now I always go there!

By the way, a £18 Calor fill costs about £4.00! Really worthwhile!

Can you refill a Calor bottle or do you mean one of those portable LPG bottles?