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Old 12 September 2019, 04:40   #1
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Hand held chartplotter for a sib

To show where the rocks and shallow bits are
Sub 200 pounds something like this and waterproof
Vhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Garmin-GPSMAP-Built-Worldwide-Basemap-White-Black/dp/B003I86PIM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1SHAIJ949VB6T&keywords=handheld+ch artplotter&qid=1568280090&s=gateway&sprefix=handhe ld+chart%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-1
I suppose I would have to purchase a chart also
Any better suggestions?
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Old 12 September 2019, 05:15   #2
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I've had a hand held Garmin with marine mapping for about a decade and it's a superb bit of kit to have in your pocket... for me now I always carry as a backup. Problem is buying new by the time you add marine charts the cost gets close to a larger unit.

Personally I wouldn't bother with one then not add the electronic charts. Sometimes they come up secondhand on here.

Here is my trusty pocket Etrex beside the seat mounted 45DV I upgraded to.
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Old 12 September 2019, 05:25   #3
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Compared to the £190 handheld you linked which has no charts this at £260 with full UK charts and the bigger screen is a great buy...

https://www.cactusnav.com/garmin-ech...r-p-22562.html
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Old 12 September 2019, 06:34   #4
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Chucking in a supplementary question - I have had a Garmin GPS 72 for years but it's finally given up TBH. I love the clear black and white display and really only need it for speed/distance travelled/minor waypoints etc.

Thinking of going for a newer GPS 73.

https://www.force4.co.uk/garmin-gps-...navigator.html

https://www.cactusnav.com/garmin-han...r-p-18641.html

Anyone have thoughts on this or the cheaper Etrex 10?
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Old 12 September 2019, 07:13   #5
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I think you are going to need to look very hard at the spec detail for any features you need Max.

At a quick glance they both have the same display size/resolution and similar battery life/basic performance.

The 73 floats and the Etrex doesn't (as far as I can see). Also I think the 73 has slightly better waypoint/track ability but I haven't studied what that means in reality for sibbing.

You may prefer the front buttons on the 73... even after 10yrs I sometimes forget which of the unmarked side buttons I need to press on my old Etrex. At least they have put some markings on the front Etrex 10 as to what the buttons do but still less clear to use at sea than the straightforward 73 model.
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got an garmin oregon 650 with maps donated from a very kind soul on here pretty good to be honest but i do like my 7 inch plotter better.
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Old 12 September 2019, 08:23   #7
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I think you are going to need to look very hard at the spec detail for any features you need Max.

At a quick glance they both have the same display size/resolution and similar battery life/basic performance.

The 73 floats and the Etrex doesn't (as far as I can see). Also I think the 73 has slightly better waypoint/track ability but I haven't studied what that means in reality for sibbing.

You may prefer the front buttons on the 73... even after 10yrs I sometimes forget which of the unmarked side buttons I need to press on my old Etrex. At least they have put some markings on the front Etrex 10 as to what the buttons do but still less clear to use at sea than the straightforward 73 model.
I checked the reviews just now on Amazon and a couple saying the screen etc not as good as the 72.

Just checked and the newer model is indeed narrower = daft?!

TBH reluctant to buy in some respects as my 72 failed on water ingress and it's only been splashed not dunked but the legibility and simple features were good. As I say all I really need is a clear ktph read out and record of distance/time plus the odd use of the compass and distance/time to next waypoint which the 72 provided well. Battery life was OK but 73 promises 18 hrs.

Might just look out for another lightly used 72...
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got an garmin oregon 650 with maps donated from a very kind soul on here pretty good to be honest but i do like my 7 inch plotter better.
I have a Nexus 7 tablet so with Navionics app and a waterproof case might be a cheaper option
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I don't think the Etrex 10 supports marine charts. You have to go to the Etrex 20 for that.
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Why not just get Navionics and use it on your phone or Tablet
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I don't think the Etrex 10 supports marine charts. You have to go to the Etrex 20 for that.
Correct the e10 has no sd card slot and limited memory you can in theory add open seamap to a 10 but I didn’t manage too......

The 20/25 can be found for a good deal the 10 is a great back up and I have it with local way points for emergency return to home on the fog use, but you will get a bearing but not hazards etc unless you add them as way points etc
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Compared to the £190 handheld you linked which has no charts this at £260 with full UK charts and the bigger screen is a great buy...



https://www.cactusnav.com/garmin-ech...r-p-22562.html


I might be being think (it is late and the beers are flowing) but I can't see if this is battery powered anywhere, and not in requirement of the cradle to operate?

Any ideas if I can keep this in me pocket as apposed to being mounted/powered??
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You need a small 12v battery to power something like the Garmin Echomap 45 in the link above... and it needs clipping into its holder on a mount screwed to the seat or similar. You can unclip the screen/unit and take it off the boat for security but that's all.

Here is my slightly earlier model mounted... the 7AH battery is in that old camera bag hanging under the seat.
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I tried Navionics on my Nexus. A few problems mainly due to my unfamiliarity I suppose but the main ones was reading the display in the sunlight and battery life was only a couple of hours but will do for my purposes.
Works well on my phone too
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Hand held chartplotter for a sib

Just got a £100 android tab to run navionics. Itís cheaper than replacing my smart phone and itís data , should it go fall in the drink.

Iíll let you know how we fare tomorrow
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A factory reset and having Navionics only on the Nexus cured the battery life problem
Why is the US subscription half the price of all the others?
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