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Old 20 January 2021, 23:05   #41
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What year cayenne?
2011, needs a change but not sure I fancy anything else, so maybe just need to hunt for a 3/4 year old one.

I don't think there is much difference in any of the big 4x4s for towing, the most important things are an automatic gearbox, a big engine and plenty of weight. Everything else is pretty much irrelevant.
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Old 20 January 2021, 23:08   #42
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All the big 4x4s I want cost a bomb to run
I take the view that what I save on depreciation by buying a totally socially unacceptable greta-rage-inducing v8 at 4 or 5 years old, more than pays for the fuel and tax on it whilst I own it.
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Old 20 January 2021, 23:13   #43
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The boats a pig to launch. I’ve just had a 2m extension made. Problem is it’s stepped hull and gets stuck on rollers, bunks, keel rollers... snip
It does sound like your boat is a pain in the ass to launch / recover? On my 7.5m Cobra I literally reverse until the back wheels of the car are about a metre or so from the waters edge, then get in the boat, drop the engine and put it in forward gear, walk to the bow, lean over and unclip the winch strap, then put in neutral and slide off the trailer rollers.

Recovering is pretty much the same in reverse, but I am thinking of fitting an electric winch so I don't have to thrash the engine so much to get up the last bit
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I put full length teflon skids on a trailer that carried a stepped hull boat, it was a complete pain using rollers.
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I have 2 Disco TD5's and a Discovery 3..... I know which one I prefer to tow my boats with
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I have 2 Disco TD5's and a Discovery 3..... I know which one I prefer to tow my boats with
Yep, a Range Rover
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drop the engine and put it in forward gear, walk to the bow, lean over and unclip the winch strap, then put in neutral and slide off the trailer rollers.

Recovering is pretty much the same in reverse, but I am thinking of fitting an electric winch so I don't have to thrash the engine so much to get up the last bit
Not looking for a heated discussion about the merits of what your doing but there are safer ways

https://www.lymingtonharbour.co.uk/recovering-vessels
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Old 22 January 2021, 15:37   #48
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Not looking for a heated discussion about the merits of what your doing but there are safer ways

https://www.lymingtonharbour.co.uk/recovering-vessels
Absolutely..........


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Impressive makes my recovery look very poor [emoji1][emoji106]
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Not looking for a heated discussion about the merits of what your doing but there are safer ways

https://www.lymingtonharbour.co.uk/recovering-vessels
The only risk I can see with power loading is if the bottom of the ramp is sandy / muddy and he prop wash is at risk of creating a drop off at the bottom of the ramp.
If that’s not the case I don’t see the danger and that article is just a load of claptrap.

Edit: That article suggests people get out of the boat with the engine running in gear which I agree is stupid. But there is no need to do that.
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Impressive makes my recovery look very poor [emoji1][emoji106]


Aye! Anyone can do it in perfect conditions, even you Neil[emoji23]
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Recovery method varies greatly with the slip and the conditions. At my main slip there is typically a 4 knot tide ripping along and also often wind and a swell to cope with
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Recovery method varies greatly with the slip and the conditions. At my main slip there is typically a 4 knot tide ripping along and also often wind and a swell to cope with
Yep...
plenty of variables when dealing with the elements....but as someone who doesn't over stress the process. Ive always found a balanced Trailer/Boat set up ...planning (thinking ahead).....good timings...I.e tides ..time of day...choices of location (often dependant on prevailing AND FORCAST weather conditions) ...together with properly maintained equipment..being flexible.. make the whole process wholy manageable.
A well drilled (well instructed) crew also make life easier...with time these measures become pretty instinctive.
Don't stress ..TAKE YOUR TIME... and enjoy
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More difficult single handed on steep slipway - e.g. Brixham.

In that case I have to push on with the engine and leave it in gear at min revs to hold whilst I clip onto the winch / tie on with painter. I don't like leaving the controls unattended, but sometimes you have to.

I never drive on with "excessive" revs just enough power to clip on to the winch safely, kill the engine and finish with the winch by hand.

Much easier with a crew member ashore first to take the painter and clip onto the winch.

As PD says good planning / systems are the answer
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More difficult single handed on steep slipway - e.g. Brixham.

In that case I have to push on with the engine and leave it in gear at min revs to hold whilst I clip onto the winch / tie on with painter. I don't like leaving the controls unattended, but sometimes you have to.

I never drive on with "excessive" revs just enough power to clip on to the winch safely, kill the engine and finish with the winch by hand.

Much easier with a crew member ashore first to take the painter and clip onto the winch.

As PD says good planning / systems are the answer
I do the same. Nose boat on. Leave throttle on and come see if I hit it right.

If step dad is available he lowers trailer so rear rollers just out the water. I push nose on, he does strange hand movements to guide me to direct the nose toward centre. I push nose on half way, then he reverses another 1-2m and gets out and I push on with throttle till his hand appears over the bow with a stop sign. He clips on. Job done.

Less easy with the wife as she smiles at me and I have no actual visibility of trailer When it’s about 2m away.

I’ve tried winching on, it’s a drama, the winch feels like it’s going to leap off the trailer. I also never get wet feet. Ruins boating for me getting wet.
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Did it work? There’s another post of mine on here where a pneumatic roller is the first In the bunk.

I also have a load of hpde I bought to modify skids.
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I’m coming round to the idea that a big torquey diesel and modern 4wd will suffice without Low range. . I won’t dice with average tow capacities for the boat though.

My boss suggested an f pace 3.0d. Quick end heavy. Decent tow weight but might be out of my personal budget. Several people mentioned Volvos. Going to look at reviews on YouTube.
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Would a roller bunk work better with the hull steps?
He several friends with pascoe ribs and v24s. Not sure anyone has ever achieved a decent trailer setup.

Iíve planned to fit a pneumatic roller (like a pneumatic jockey roller) but never got round to it. Itís a loose loose really
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Sounds like you could do with exploring mods to your trailer.

Anyway, good luck with it all.
Remember to come back and let us all know how it pans out!
Yep on v3 of trailer mods. Sometimes a big 4x4 and less time playing with trailer means more time boating but it is very frustrating.

Second stepped hull. Second boat onn sbs trailer and second frame. Normal hull rm trailer was a dream

Iíll keep you posted. I think the old disco will remain and Iíll find a medium fast ish estate for caravan. Or something the wife wants like a disco sport to impress the mums up the school and Iíll get a 5k motorway muncher.
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Most people drive on and off here, those auto latches should always be backed up with the chain latched which the boat driver can do easily by hanging over the front and just clipping it on. Many boats have come off the trailers using a variety of those catches.
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