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Old 02 August 2016, 00:40   #41
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Don't get me started on this one since the distance involved (Poole - Alderney) is less than Round the Island but the strict legal regulations for entry and exit to and from the countries involved are as follows:

Most people don't realise that going to Alderney (and the Channel Islands in general) involves going outside the EU (Brexit notwithstanding, currently). Customs controls therefore apply:

a) Before leaving, you must complete Form C1331. Available online at https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...4211/c1331.pdf

b) Leave one part of it in a Customs Box at a departure point near you (or post it to an address in the form). Leaving from Poole, I use Salternes Marina but others along the South coast (although diminishing in availability) are also available.

c) Go to Braye (if you want to go to Alderney: St Peter Port will do if you want Guernsey). You must report at a 'Port of Entry' before landing anywhere in the Channel Islands. Braye is a 'Port of Entry' and you should go to the Harbourmaster's Office before landing anyone or anything else elsewhere. You don't (currently) need a passport but the form that you have to complete asks for a passport number for every crew member, so have hard copy passports or an incredibly good memory. (You should take a valid passport anyway in case you need (or want) to go to Cherbourg (or elsewhere) in France where the same ridiculous rules do not(currently) apply but where a passport may nonetheless be required).

d) Well done: you're there. Have fun and (unless you have been to France in the meantime) you can, subject to paying your harbour dues, leave without further formality. But...

e) On entering British territorial waters (12 Nautical miles from the nearest British land - the Isle of Wight in my case), you are required to hoist a Q Flag. This is a plain yellow flag (which - currently - denotes both arrival from outside the EU as well as plague on board). It is available from all good chandlers or by cutting up and appropriately sewing a regulation household duster. NB: Do not use a G Flag, which indicates that you are a Harbourmaster. This will seriously annoy the genuine Harbourmaster who will not believe that when marked poorly in felt-tip on a plastic bag the two flags are impossible to differentiate in a shop. I bought the wrong one: how was I to know!

f) You may dock in a British port but nobody is allowed ashore (although docking a rib - or any other type of boat -with nobody going ashore is very difficult - especially when toilets are so close). The Q Flag can only be lowered once you have called Customs (08457231110) and answered a lengthy series of questions (including: 'Did you buy anything while abroad?' 'Yes: lunch.' 'What did you eat?' 'Sea Bass with a langoustine sauce.' 'Oh lovely: was that with capers or lemon?'). Assuming clearance is given (I've never had a problem, given that I've always said that I had no different people on board than there were than when I left, had no illegal drugs, firearms or explosives and no more alcohol or cigarettes than I was entitled to and no animals - kids excepted), you are clear to go about your business .... save that:

g) Form C1331 has a further duplicate part that you are then required to then complete and post back to Customs to prove all the above (Salternes Marina or Royal Mail, as above). You are also required to do it even if you do not do the above (ie if your trip is cancelled or in any way different from how you first completed the form). There is probably some small print that makes you culpable whatever you do.

I hope that the above helps everyone on this forum that crosses the Channel and that they all do the above. It would be very wrong not to but I wonder if there may not be severe consequences for someone who does not do so before long. Brexiteers: you have been warned!
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Old 02 August 2016, 05:58   #42
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Or option B get on with it and have fun.
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To paraphrase Avocet, arrive in Braye, see the harbour master (fill out any forms he suggests) then enjoy your holiday. By all means beach your rib at Saye but don't leave it there unattended if the wind has any north in it. As for uk customs regulations upon return, I would probably take my chances so long as I'd not been to France at any point.
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Old 02 August 2016, 07:32   #44
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To paraphrase Avocet, arrive in Braye, see the harbour master (fill out any forms he suggests) then enjoy your holiday. By all means beach your rib at Saye but don't leave it there unattended if the wind has any north in it. As for uk customs regulations upon return, I would probably take my chances so long as I'd not been to France at any point.

Ok, so what's the procedure if we are arriving from & return to France? It hadn't occurred to me that I might have to jump through hoops.


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Whenever we've been to Alderney and had a trip to France we've follow Erin's guide. - turn up and have fun. Report to harbourmaster so that he knows your boat is there in case of any issues.
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Avocet's instructions are of course technically correct- but we've never followed them, and never had any problems.
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Whenever we've been to Alderney and had a trip to France we've follow Erin's guide. - turn up and have fun. Report to harbourmaster so that he knows your boat is there in case of any issues.

Sound like my kind of instructions👍 horrible here today on the Cotentin, peeing with rain, blowing a hooley, but at least it's not cold


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Hopefully it'll settle for the weekend. The jury is still out as to whether we come over to Cherbourg on Thursday then on to Alderney on Friday, or straight to Alderney on Thurs or Fri.
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Hopefully it'll settle for the weekend. The jury is still out as to whether we come over to Cherbourg on Thursday then on to Alderney on Friday, or straight to Alderney on Thurs or Fri.

Cracking forecast from Friday onwards👍


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My comment regarding France was just in reference to when you return to Blighty as the Border Agency and Customs in the UK are keeping a sharper eye out these days given the illegal immigrant problem. There have already been attempts to get to the UK from France via the Channel Islands.
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Yep, we went straight into the harbour and tied up to the short stay buoy. Call water taxi on 37 / M1 or phone the mainbrace chandlery.

Fill out form in harbour masters office with your passport number.

Get taxi to campsite.

The storm hit last night and Pauls tent broke about 5am. Being a great mate and in true Ribnet style, I slept through the whole thing

Made Bacon rolls in the field kitchen on the campsite and then got the bus into to town and we are currently in the Georgian House...

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The weather should clear in the next 24 hours. Going to get supplies and fish and chips later on.

A pic of the wet campsite...

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The weekend looks fantastic though...

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Looking good Mr Whisper.. keep the pics coming
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The jury is still out as to whether we come over to Cherbourg on Thursday then on to Alderney on Friday, or straight to Alderney on Thurs or Fri.
OK - I think this is my final decision... whilst my heart says go Thursday to Cherbourg, my head (and the fact I'll have Pam and Katie with me) says play safe and leave on Friday directly from the Solent to Alderney.
Wavefinder predicts that the wave height at the Channel Lightship will have dropped from 2.1m on Thursday mid morning to 1.2m the same time on Friday.

So - our plan is to leave Southampton Drystack at about 10.15 on Friday morning, be around Yarmouth at about 11am, and head straight across to Alderney.

If anyone else is going Friday and wants to meet up at Southampton, Yarmouth, or off the Needles please let me know.

We'll be on VHF Ch77, or text or call on 07840 975807.

(We'll be camping on Alderney so when we get there we will get a taxi from Braye Harbour to the campsite)

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Just stopped raining here in Barfleur. Looking good for the weekend. We should be launching about 10.00 on Saturday, which should see us in Alderney around lunchtime. Do we need to book the campsite or can we just roll up?


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Just stopped raining here in Barfleur. Looking good for the weekend. We should be launching about 10.00 on Saturday, which should see us in Alderney around lunchtime. Do we need to book the campsite or can we just roll up?


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If you have your own tent you can just turn up. I'm checking to see if there are any pre erected tents available.


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We have our own tent & gear Alex, no problem👍


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