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Old 30 July 2014, 03:43   #31
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What a stupid comment from the MP, no surprise. That's like saying more commercial air passengers die in planes than than those who jump out as a hobby, so why enforce jumpers to wear parachutes with an emergency chute. Stat's are pointless without perspective.
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Old 30 July 2014, 16:46   #32
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Out of interest, I've chartered a 42 ft yacht in Greece in August. My children 13 x 2, 10 and 8 yrs ,will be on board it will be 30 degrees and calm, do you think we should we all wear a life jacket?
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Old 30 July 2014, 16:56   #33
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If you're under way and they aren't in the cockpit, yes.

If they slipped in and banged head on way under guard rail, you may not see or hear them and not notice they're gone until too late.

Each to their own though.

It also depends if they can swim!!!

Hard to keep an eye on 4 sprogs when sailing, motoring easier, but still keep them cockpit bound. At anchor, keep an eye on them if on deck.
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Out of interest, I've chartered a 42 ft yacht in Greece in August. My children 13 x 2, 10 and 8 yrs ,will be on board it will be 30 degrees and calm, do you think we should we all wear a life jacket?
I spent many holidays at that age with my folks on charter boats (albeit in the West Highlands). The rules were: beyond the companion way we had to have a lifey on, outside the cockpit we had to have a lifey and a safety line.
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Whitbread Round the World Race boat (twice) - and winner. Er - any PFD's on board lads?
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Your point being?
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IMHO the UK, Like Ireland, should legislate for lifejacket use,however my thoughts would be to start by legislating for the compulsory use for children 17 years and under. I think few responsible boaters would argue with such legislation for kids. US studies show that children who grew up having to wear a lifejacket, will be much more likely to wear one as an adult.
I wonder if it becomes a "right of passage" not to have to wear it any more when old enough? Could it even have an adverse effect where wearing one becomes associated with children and thus "grown ups" who might voluntarily opt to use one, elect not to? I would be sceptical about applying an age limit - the evidence would suggest comparatively few children die in boating accidents, and that actually adult males are the likely victims.

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WillK - who regulates and enforces lifejacket use in Ireland?
Are there any statistics to back up how effective the legislation in Ireland has been?
Do you read of any prosecutions?
Legislation is toothless unless it can be enforced effectively.
actually that is not necessarily the case, plenty of laws are rarely enforced (or practical to enforce) but the existence of a law is enough to encourage general compliance.

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What a stupid comment from the MP, no surprise. That's like saying more commercial air passengers die in planes than than those who jump out as a hobby, so why enforce jumpers to wear parachutes with an emergency chute. Stat's are pointless without perspective.
Actually struck me as a remarkable piece of understanding evidence based policy making. Your analogy seems a little odd. Is it even true? Your Chances of Dying & Other Health Risks
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Out of interest, I've chartered a 42 ft yacht in Greece in August. My children 13 x 2, 10 and 8 yrs ,will be on board it will be 30 degrees and calm, do you think we should we all wear a life jacket?

May I suggest that you allow them to be free of LJ,s and I come with you to help keep an eye on them



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Old 31 July 2014, 15:12   #40
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I will ,worked with a major flotilla for 12 years and the block solas LJ are miserable, never saw a client wear one and never had a an incident.LJ's wearing is down to common sense. Flying along in a rib Absolutely, sitting just off shore enjoying a the sun why?
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