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Old 30 September 2012, 06:45   #21
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A non-inflatable one? I assume you mean like this:
150N Air Foam Lifejackets and Life Cribs from Crewsaver

They have inherent bouyancy from the jacket plus bouyancy by manually filling from the tube. They wont turn you on your back until manually inflated so if you bang your head as you go over its possibly no better than a manual! (except they'll find your body).
They have no spray hoods etc. And are bulky and cumbersome.
No, i actually meant something like This

I used those on my old boat for passengers - I have a manual lifejacket and also an automatic one when im alone.

The non-inflatable ones turn you on your back and they won't ever malfunction, the only disadvantage is that they're extremly bulky.
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Old 30 September 2012, 08:03   #22
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Keep it going this is good thread, various opinions & views
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Willk when you've offered the surprise passanger the spare and then one goes off what the plan?
Much the same as when he blows up the drive leg on the test boat - he'll make a phone call and activate the back up plan!

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This is only necessary for hammar based jackets; the hardest bit of rearming yours is getting it to fold neatly back into the cover and the velcro closed.

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it doesn't seem to be rocket science to get them to seal, though I accept that doing it on a moving RIB might be harder than doing it on the kitchen table.
I'm disappointed that the unofficial marketing arm of Redbay haven't pointed out that good ribs have kitchen tables for this very purpose (I've certainly seen no evidence of cooking at them)!
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Much the same as when he blows up the drive leg on the test boat - he'll make a phone call and activate the back up plan!
Hey, don't knock a plan that works. Been towed in three times now by an "11 meter backup plan" and let me tell you, it beats paddling...
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I was referring to the hammar type, it surprising how hard it is to get it air tight in a class room, never mind being on a boat.

the hammar the bottle I'd inside the jacket and to replace you work through a hole in the bladder.

normal life jackets - are easier and straight forward since they are all external and you not compromising the bladder...although a pressure test on returning from home or even a service is recommended.

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Hey, don't knock a plan that works. Been towed in three times now by an "11 meter backup plan" and let me tell you, it beats paddling...
and saves petrol or diesel!
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I'm disappointed that the unofficial marketing arm of Redbay haven't pointed out that...
They're* missing a lot of tricks P., I'm getting concerned, I mean, it's not that they aren't keen - they are, but they don't have the hunger, the Will to Win.

If they don't pick up the pace, I'm gonna hafta quit this cushy Mod number and go back to me old job...





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Hey, don't knock a plan that works. Been towed in three times now by an "11 meter backup plan" and let me tell you, it beats paddling...
Hey I wasn't knocking it. I like your approach of getting to break play on other people's boats and getting them to rescue you afterwards. If I could work out such a scam arrangement I'd be doing the same. I can only assume you have some significant blackmail on Tom!

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and saves petrol or diesel!
don't be daft, Willk doesn't pay for the fuel, have you seen the fuel consumption on "the Beast" - its only matched by Donegal Dan's cake consumption.

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They're* missing a lot of tricks P., I'm getting concerned, I mean, it's not that they aren't keen - they are, but they don't have the hunger, the Will to Win.
I think they are confused. Their leader has stopped showing them direction and accordingly they are unable to simply follow in his footsteps.
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No, i actually meant something like This

I used those on my old boat for passengers - I have a manual lifejacket and also an automatic one when im alone.

The non-inflatable ones turn you on your back and they won't ever malfunction, the only disadvantage is that they're extremly bulky.
Well - no! thats a 100N "lifejacket" which is not tested to turn an unconscious wearer face up. A 150N lifejacket under the old british standard used to be tested to turn someone wearing swimming trunks (no sailing gear) in a swimming pool (calm water) face up within a certain time. I gather the EN standard may have tweaked that slightly but I note people like crewsaver say the 100 doesn't turn the wearer, the 150N does but this may take some time...

Possibly OK for passengers as you'll be coming to get them and presumably you don't take passengers out if its stupidly rough.
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Well - no! thats a 100N "lifejacket" which is not tested to turn an unconscious wearer face up. A 150N lifejacket under the old british standard used to be tested to turn someone wearing swimming trunks (no sailing gear) in a swimming pool (calm water) face up within a certain time. I gather the EN standard may have tweaked that slightly but I note people like crewsaver say the 100 doesn't turn the wearer, the 150N does but this may take some time...

Possibly OK for passengers as you'll be coming to get them and presumably you don't take passengers out if its stupidly rough.

True, i muddled up something right there.

My old boat was a 5-Person Boat and i carried 1 automatic 1 manual and 3 of those around with me.

The Automatic one for going alone the Manual one for Rescue/Safeboat stuff and the other three becuz i have to
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