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Old 05 May 2009, 16:39   #31
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I think we are missing the point here entirely.

These people are completely driven (but mental, granted). They don't need a Health & Safety Officer, and God knows they won't take your Wealth of Advice - but they will gratefully accept your money and I can't think of a better way to put the frighteners on the Japanese. (well, I can but Mr. K would vanish me forever )

Let's face it - you're not arguing over another entirely worthy but eminently forgettable Greenpeace Campaign. I stand to be corrected (no surprises there) but if I recall correctly, Greenpeace had to retire early last season and leave the S.I. to carry the fight to the Whalers?

So, in summary, if they want to get killed saving a few whales, I may just have to unscrew my wallet and pay my dues.
I kind of agree, but getting themselves killed in the process will only bring great sorrow to their families and do F' all for their cause. As I said these guys are well intentioned fools. Giving such people ships and fast boats in such conditions is lethal.
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I kind of agree, but getting themselves killed in the process will only bring great sorrow to their families and do F' all for their cause. As I said these guys are well intentioned fools. Giving such people ships and fast boats in such conditions is lethal.
Overall I agree but the bridge crew etc.. have no excuse for not being fully trained and professional. I still think that the main problem is the captain who should know better.
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Like many others here I have worked at sea, even within the Artic circle on various research ships.
The conditions and temperatures of the water here (and the southern ocean which is even worse due to the distances for rescue) mean I have no sympathy for these guys antics, well intentioned or not.
If I was on a ship and these guys turned up it would on the water cannon and using the harpoons on them.
After all I would reason, these guys are mental and its them or us!
Environmental protest is one thing but these guys are environ-mental cases.
These guys are so extreme and dangerous I am not surprised that even Greenpeace want nothing to do with them.
As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.........
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I kind of agree,
it was more fun before!
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but getting themselves killed in the process will only bring great sorrow to their families
Probably, but you know what some families are like...
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and do F' all for their cause.
Not so sure - Martyrs are all the rage right now
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As I said these guys are well intentioned fools.
Yes (ditto )
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Giving such people ships and fast boats in such conditions is lethal.
What is their safety record as regards yer actual death stuff compared to Greenpeace?
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If I was on a ship and these guys turned up it would on the water cannon and using the harpoons on them.
After all I would reason, these guys are mental and its them or us!
I think that you may be employing their logic now BruceB - such as it is. Not that I'm knocking it or you...
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What is their safety record as regards yer actual death stuff compared to Greenpeace?
The French Secret Service possibly tilted the balance towards Greenpeace having the greater number of fatalities.
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The French Secret Service possibly tilted the balance towards Greenpeace having the greater number of fatalities.
Yes, I'd forgotten The Greatest French Naval Victory. Luckily they attacked when most of the crew were on shore leave, or things might have ended differently
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The RIB incident was just incompetence and stupidity but have any of you seen the clip where they ram the whaler with the ship! Although this may just be incompetence as well but doesn't exactly help their case if it is
This is scary stuff and in the southern ocean too, not much room for fixing it if it it all goes pear shaped. As I have said before the whalers are not the good guys here but these protesters are just mental and really should be discouraged, at least the methods they employ......
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The sea sheperd is the old PFV Westra, one of the old "Island Class" what a waste of a good ship.
When the ship was sold to these muppets they were looking for Officers and Engineers to deliver the ship, as they could not guarentee where she was going or the state of her certification / maintenance (after she had been laid up for 3 years) nobody volunteered to put their ticket on the line.
It also angers me to see theit hippy graffiti over the once lovely interior.

They even filled the forward compartments with concrete without doing any stability calculations and we heard they actualy rammed a Japanese fishing vessel whith total disreguard to human life and left the fishing vessel with a rather large hole in her side in the middle of the pacific.

Its also sad to see the death of the Delta as people that I know that used her said the Delta was a fantastic boat.

Ship was traveling far too fast and they were not controlling the painter.
Our old procedures were that the boat was to be launched then crew were to embarc via a boarding ladder.

Total Muppets the lot of them and they deserve everything they get, anyway im away before I start swearing and realy ranting

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Oh they where at it once more last night…

Lunched Delta, with out flipping it (showing off now) in the South Atlantic and headed off for a whiling ship. With a hand held VHF

Best giggle was the guy calling them from the chopper, he was over head in said chopper while they where sat on a rib with two old school 2 smokes at full chat while the crew had balaclavas on…

And they did not seam to know why the RIB could not hear the radio.

Aye we are all experts while sat on the sofa with a chilled beer to hand... BUT I cant wait till next Mondays show.

Carry on Whale Wars
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