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Old 28 April 2004, 15:32   #1
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Tohatsu One Design 6m ?

Hopeing to pick all your brains again
Still searching for a RIB and have seen a Tohatsu 6M with a Tohatsu 90hp. I have done a search and read the rib int. review but not seen any first hand comments, so your views would be much apreciated.

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Old 28 April 2004, 17:21   #2
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I went on the press day when Tohatsu first brought out these RIBs and was pretty impressed with them.

They are quite basic, but appear to be solidly built. The hull gives a good, fast ride -- I think they were getting in the region of 40 knots with a 90hp.

The Tohatsu outboard is not new technology and will be more thirsty than a newer design, however they are reasonably reliable and relatively cheap.

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Old 28 April 2004, 18:16   #3
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Mark, the Solent ribs 6m is a very similar hull, although they may not thank me for saying so. Just bought a 6.6m Tohatsu hull but haven't tried her on the water yet. Tohatsu seem to market them in busts and then go quiet for a while. Mine is 4 years old and there is not a mark on her and seems well built.

http://www.solentribs.com/

Spent a weekend in March on a Solent 6.5m and was very impressed. The biggest let down was no elephants trunk had been fitted (at the request of the owner) so water had to be pumped out, a major draw back in my opinion. Also the throttle had been mounted vetically so finding reverse ment pushing the lever a long way down and didn't lead to a good set up to practise boat handling with. However both are minor faults.

Tubes don't touch the water at rest or lightly loaded which is one of the reasons they manage good peformance figures but the down side is any rib like this isn't as stable and wouldn't suit divers getting kitted up but shouldn't matter to a user looking for performance or a run around rib.

Porters make the hulls and they also have a web site which you might want to look at or visit them in Emsworth.

http://www.porters.org.uk/

As John says the 90 Tohatsu isn't the latest technology but its tried and tested which could be reasuring on the water.

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Old 28 April 2004, 18:41   #4
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I have to disagree with you both here John and Pete. Tohatsu make a TLDI 90hp which is very modern fuel efficient technology - and very well priced aswell. If they had made a larger TLDI engine i would have seriously considered it (i did consider a pair of 90 TLDI's). Of course they may also make a conventional carb 90 - best to check.

I've heard nothing bad about Tohatsu engines but i do feel resale value will be poor.

TLDI "Two stroke Low pressure Direct Injection" is very similar to Mercurys Optimax technology...infact i have heard rumours that it is used under licence from Mercury.

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Just checked my Tohatsu brocure. They make a 3cyl 1267cc autolube carb 90hp which weighs 135Kg. They also make a TLDI which i guess is based upon the same engine??? Because it is also 3cyl and weighs 135Kg.
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Daniel agreed but I think Mark is looking at the 6m tohatsu for sale with a carb 90 hp engine but might be wrong. I have a 90 carb Tohatsu engine on the 6.6 at the moment but plan to swop it out for an Opti if the world will just stop for a couple of days, but only because I want the extra performance from the boat.

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Old 28 April 2004, 18:47   #6
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Sorry, thought we were talking new. That seams a bit overpriced... i'll look up what they are new...

From the 2002 price list:

6.1 std spec (console and seat pods) + 90 ELPTO 13250 incl VAT.

Either that broker wants seriously bidding or the boat has a TLDI.
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Yep, but all there prices seem to be over the top. The advert does say offers in the description box though and it has been up for sale for a loooong time,

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Aren't you supposed to be heading West ? and do check with Brit that Wave does all his chores before he goes out to play.
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Mark, the Solent ribs 6m is a very similar hull, although they may not thank me for saying so. Just bought a 6.6m Tohatsu hull but haven't tried her on the water yet. Tohatsu seem to market them in busts and then go quiet for a while. Mine is 4 years old and there is not a mark on her and seems well built.

http://www.solentribs.com/

Spent a weekend in March on a Solent 6.5m and was very impressed. The biggest let down was no elephants trunk had been fitted (at the request of the owner) so water had to be pumped out, a major draw back in my opinion. Also the throttle had been mounted vetically so finding reverse ment pushing the lever a long way down and didn't lead to a good set up to practise boat handling with. However both are minor faults.
you are right they are a similar hull but that is where it ends the Solent is a superior build and fit out, as for the customers request for where they want to put things and leave things out what can you do, they have just finished a 6.5 with teak decks rear bench seat 225 on the back it looks absolutley
amazing loads of gadgets ie cd player deck lights? underwater light
fantastic looking boat cant wait to see it on the water,the customer is over the moon with it. and he is having five days on the water with an instructor
to put her through her paces it was built to show the capabilities of the company , the guys at Solent are extremely committed to their product and can,t keep up with demand at the moment well worth a look
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they have just finished a 6.5 with teak decks rear bench seat 225 on the back . . . the customer is over the moon with it. and he is having five days on the water with an instructor
With that power to weight ratio I should think he'll need it!

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oh bugger!
its not real teak sorry for not pointing this out but that lovely imatation stuff
it looks great on the boat power to weight ratio yes she will be heavier and that's why the max engine size but she will still fly, and does look amazing
trying to persuade them to bring it to rib x as at the mo 6.5 and 6.9 only going to be there .
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