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Old 10 July 2009, 11:04   #41
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Why? I have cable steering and mine doesn't.
No Feedback (NFB) Steering, I think, usually won't. As these are becoming more popular as prices come down, I don't think you can bet on a cable driven steering system always circling once you let go the wheel.

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Old 10 July 2009, 11:43   #42
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A couple of observations here:

Loose steering - you get minced.
Tight steering - you get lost at sea as the rib dissapears over the horizon and leaves you to die of Hypothermia or get run over by the next numptie in a Binliner who hasn't seen you in the water.

Either scenario....not good.

As for the RNLI & the like not wearing one, you have a boat full of HIGHLY TRAINED & EXPERIENCED guys, any of whom can take over the helm. It's hardly the same comparing professional rescue crews coming alongside stricken ships in F8 gales to your trip to the Folly and a PB2 certificate......


Conclusion: wear a Kill cord!
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Old 10 July 2009, 12:24   #43
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A couple of observations here:

Loose steering - you get minced.
Tight steering - you get lost at sea as the rib dissapears over the horizon and leaves you to die of Hypothermia or get run over by the next numptie in a Binliner who hasn't seen you in the water.

Either scenario....not good.

As for the RNLI & the like not wearing one, you have a boat full of HIGHLY TRAINED & EXPERIENCED guys, any of whom can take over the helm. It's hardly the same comparing professional rescue crews coming alongside stricken ships in F8 gales to your trip to the Folly and a PB2 certificate......


Conclusion: wear a Kill cord!

Nail. Head.
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Old 10 July 2009, 12:32   #44
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I've often get the impression that some people buy a RIB thinking they can do what the RNLI guys do.
Much like someone in a standard range rover ploughing into a river after watching the camel trophy.
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Old 10 July 2009, 13:22   #45
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I don't think you can bet on a cable driven steering system always circling once you let go the wheel.

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No.. not always, it depends on a few factors, but my set up was a sure fire certainty at the time, and I am not alone .. heres one, thats been seen before



mine would have done just the same if I was travelling at the right speed and got thown out .. go 'youtube' for a few more and surprise yourself !
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I guess you are most likely to get thrown out during some sort of cornering manouvre anyway (and/or to grab the wheel to try and keep yourself in). So even with steering that stays straight by itself you stand a reasonable chance of being minced!

The girl in the picture is incredibly lucky.

Worth bearing in mind that loose kill cords can be a problem. JK stopped me on the Conwy trip because I had done mine up (around leg) quite loosely with my thick gloves on. On my own boat it seems to be springy enough that it pulls tight by itself. For whatever reason that didn't happen on his boat - and potentially my leg could have slipped out as I went over the side. That might make me reconsider putting it on my L/J instead.
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I guess you are most likely to get thrown out during some sort of cornering manouvre anyway (and/or to grab the wheel to try and keep yourself in). So even with steering that stays straight by itself you stand a reasonable chance of being minced!

The girl in the picture is incredibly lucky.

Worth bearing in mind that loose kill cords can be a problem. JK stopped me on the Conwy trip because I had done mine up (around leg) quite loosely with my thick gloves on. On my own boat it seems to be springy enough that it pulls tight by itself. For whatever reason that didn't happen on his boat - and potentially my leg could have slipped out as I went over the side. That might make me reconsider putting it on my L/J instead.
I've not put mine on my leg since I hit a wave and got the bow pointing at seagulls, my feet lost grip and my legs went back (was stood up). Kill cord didn't come all the way off but nearly. So have a kill cord attached to my life jacket and the spare jackets now.
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Lucky you .. If the trim tab behind the prop doesnt balance the prop thrust, (and sometimes its impossible to get it right) and you have a fairly hefty motor as I did, say 135 with manual steering, by the time you get up to full speed, the 'pull' on the steering was considerable. Mine was a particularly bad example, but it is not uncommon, as my research for the problem proved. Either yours is balanced perfectly somehow and/or you have a fairly heavy boat, where the effect may seem less so. The boat in question for me was quite light, but I can assure you .. letting the helm go at full chat on that craft would have been suicide, and I often worried about component failure elsewhere in the steering system because of that.

Its a very good argument for fitting hydraulic steering
As jky said - I assume it is because it is "no feedback steering" - but I thought cable steering was all like that these days? I guess not then...!

I would have thought an inherently unstable steering system that would bang to full lock as soon as the wheel was released was downright bloody dangerous and shouldn't be allowed to be sold
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Imagine being out at sea in heavy weather. You fall in, and take your kill cord with you. There is no chance for your crew to start the engine again, and pick you up, unless they have access to a spare cord. One extra kill cord should be kept onboard, I assume....
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with some steering set ups the way the prop turns through the water will cause the boat to circle when the steerings let go ,might not be tight but it will eventually circle,even some ships will do it if the auto pilots not on,
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