The Costs of Building RIBs - Page 4

Manos · 09 March 2003, 06:51

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Originally posted by matiboy
as 83100 Rand which when converted equates to 6500 GBP

Sorry about that. I have a price list for dealers in SAfrica and it shows that the 100bhp is about £4,000.
Will check and let you know why the increase. Possibly a typing mistake.
Yes this was cut and paste job

Manos · 09 March 2003, 06:56

Quote:

Originally posted by eksrae
I can tell you that an aluminum boat shop here in canada charges out on average 70 dollars per hour. labour alone to build and fully rig a 27' hull is around 700 hundred hours. the aluminum alone is worth $12000.

I do not think that you can compare aluminium with Glass Fibre boats.
In my opinion the former are stronger, the material is more expenssive and you need high tec equipment and qualified personnel to do the special welding.
In SAfrica labour costs are much lower that what they are in Europe or the US or Canada. Therefore, I suppose that the final product will have a lower price if it is produced there.

Manos · 09 March 2003, 07:05

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Originally posted by crazyhorse
So Its Reep Off In SA then ? Wheres Manos

I'm here LOLOL

I think there must be a mistake on that price. Possibly a typping error. As I said before I have the list and is not that much

This is a copy paste job too

F100BETL SINGLE CONTROL 17"AL 4 ANA ANA 703 R86,700 and suggested max RSP R76,053.

The above price includes VAT and after you ttake vat off you can get up to 18% discount on the final export price.

crazyhorse · 09 March 2003, 09:41

Sounds like your ttwitching a bit mi old matee

Dirk Diggler · 09 March 2003, 09:53

You seem very good at quoting prices and specification, but have you actually ever bought an engine at these prices?

If so, how about posting a copy of an invoice for us all to take a look at! And how about letting us know what material costs are in SA compared to the UK, ie: Kilo prices of resin, csm, woven etc.

I may be wrong but you do seem to do rather a lot of backpedaling when it looks like you might have made a sale, as in the case of the drysuits for £50.00. So come, put up or shut up!

Alan · 09 March 2003, 13:49

Manos,

Are the prices quoted for 2 stroke Yams for conventional or HPDI?

Cheers,
Alan

matiboy · 09 March 2003, 14:32

I'm banking on a cheap drysuit for my son & me ! LOL

And a close up view of his new sexy Falcon racer, if he goes racing in the Solent, I'll also be a rib groupy clingon !

Dirk Diggler · 09 March 2003, 15:01

I don't want to disapoint you, but I think you will find that the words "cheap" and Drysuit" rarely appear together in the same sentence.

I would love to be proved wrong, but I think this could be be a lot of hot air, I wonder if Manos has ever considered taking up Balooning!!

Charles · 09 March 2003, 17:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Manos

Exchange Rate £ 1.00 = zar 15.00

I think not - the Rand is getting stronger by the day:
£1.00 = R12.70

This makes a massive difference.

crazyhorse · 09 March 2003, 17:52

Manos has contacted me and wants it to be known he will be reporting back as soon as he lands in greece and can get to a phone.

Dirk Diggler · 09 March 2003, 18:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Charles

I think not - the Rand is getting stronger by the day:
£1.00 = R12.70

This makes a massive difference.

Not in the mind of Manos, or as we like to call him Jackanory!

thewavehumper · 09 March 2003, 22:13

Before this thread devolved into an engine bartering session, a couple of really good points were made and I'd like to explore them a bit more if anybody is interested?

1. The ridiculous price for maintenance parts for engiines and how can we get them cheaper. Does anybody have any ideas of how to get these cheaper.

2. The idea of clubbing together in a Rib based purchasing cooperative stikes me as heaven sent. I wonder what prices we could get if we bought 5 GPS's , 10 Icom radios or a 100 5 litre cans of Optimax Oil,

Manos I need an 8.5 mtr trailer , what can you do for me.

cheers

Manos · 10 March 2003, 07:23

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Originally posted by THEWAVEHUMPER
Manos I need an 8.5 mtr trailer , what can you do for me.

I will ask TALON trailers in SAfrica nad let you know within the week.

Manos · 10 March 2003, 07:34

After a 6 hour delay I arrived at my destination and 1st thing this am is to look at the favorit RIBNet.

Well guys thanks for the comments. I will not reply to each and one of you separately but in general.

1. Whatever you want to believe the FACT is that the UK is the MOST expenssive country to live in the World!! South Africa due to the low exchange rate (AGREE is GBP1.00=ZAR12.65 - I was wrong) is cheaper than the UK.

2. I do not have to prove anything to any one so those who talk about hot air and crap like that better wach their own back before they start again. And as they say in the US KISS MY

!!

3. My prfession is Marine Consultant i.e. I provide advise about marine matters to people who request it for a fee. So any further info or advise by me on this mmatter needs to be paied for.

Finally, who gives a damn what every body else thinks (I don't) and you either like it or lump it

Dirk Diggler · 10 March 2003, 08:11

Quote:

Originally posted by Manos

3. My prfession is Marine Consultant i.e. I provide advise about marine matters to people who request it for a fee. So any further info or advise by me on this mmatter needs to be paied for.

Finally, who gives a damn what every body else thinks (I don't) and you either like it or lump it [IMG]

So how much is unemployment benefit at the moment?
And as for not giving a damn, why are you even replying in that case.

The simple fact is this, talk as much as you like, but at some time you will need to come up with the goods!

Manos · 10 March 2003, 08:13

Quote:

Originally posted by Dirk Diggler

So how much is unemployment benefit at the moment?

You are the best to know about that yet!!

Jonny Fuller · 10 March 2003, 08:22

There you go again Giggler, you're a s**t stirer, I'm gonna tell my mum about you!

Alan · 10 March 2003, 08:22

As one fellow Plymouth alumni to another how much do I need to pay you in professional fees for you to tell me whether the Yamaha outboard prices you are quoting are conventional 2 stroke or HPDI? I am genuinely interested!

Thanks,
Alan

matiboy · 10 March 2003, 08:40

dont be offended

People on this forum are genuinely interested in ( through this global medium called a puter ) to see what opportunities there in getting a better deal

eg if trailers can be purchased for 600 quid and then imported saving hundreds , if not thousands then great

we all know that we are simply ripped off in the UK in many many aspects

A customer of mine once said that he was buying a second home in SA for 600 quid ! Astonishing , even if it is in a poorer area.

I have tried looking at SA african websites to compare prices on various things, but I have to say the majority of websites are very home made looking and dont quote prices, so I have got nowhere. The few prices I have seen have actually been very expensive because they have probably been imported to SA from US.

Comparing prices in US is easy as they are so advanced with websites and online purchasing & we know they are much cheaper there.

Why not silence your critics by showing a couple of useful website links or scanned brochures with prices quoted, as we are interested !

Feedback I have got is that you're a great bloke so dont get the hump. Now about this marine consultancy fee, lets waive that for the time being.

John Kennett · 10 March 2003, 08:59

Manos

Someone seems to have upset you, but I'm not sure why. You have made some fairly wild assertions, but with nothing to back them up people are a bit sceptical.

I, for one, still don't believe your figures. Nothing personal, and I'm not having a go at you. I just don't believe them.

I look forward to being proved wrong though

John