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Old 01 April 2005, 07:26   #1
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Swinging mooring.

Hi folks, question for you.
I have just obtained use of a swinging mooring, very low water drying, at Northqueensferry.
It`s a buried JCB wheel and tyre with a very heavy chain on it. I am fitting a large buoy and swivel to the chain and intent to hopefully leave my rib on the mooring over long weekends.
Now the question.
Is there a self locking shackle or clip I can use to hook up to the swivel that has a very low to zero chance of coming adrift from my painter. I am not happy with my skill with bits of rope so wish to be able to clip on without using any knots.
If I have to I will use a shackle but that means mousing it every time.
The painter at the moment has a large Carbine clip on it but I don`t think this is secure enough.
Any Idea`s.
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You could always try a locking Karabiner, some lock using springs, some lock by you tightening a sheath around the shaft.

Have a look at the screwgate karabiners here , especially the Petzl - Am'D Ball Lock, which looks as though it would be very hard to accidently open.
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Old 01 April 2005, 07:48   #3
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You might want to think about security and the chance of the painter chaffing through.

we use a 6 foot length of chain fixed to the underside of the buoy with a moused shackle. The chain is inside plastic tube to protect the boat and the end of the chain is padlocked to the deck fitting in the rib, a second side chain is fixed to the bow fitting with a Karabiner with a spring sleave to keep it shut.

This gives security with two fixing points, but the load is on the bow fitting not a chain laying on the tube.

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...we use a 6 foot length of chain fixed to the underside of the buoy with a moused shackle. The chain is inside plastic tube to protect the boat .........to the bow fitting with a Karabiner with a spring sleave to keep it shut....
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Same here except that you must take the chain from above the swivel or you will wind the chain around the buoy I havenít found an SS Karabiner with a sprung sleave yet so I use two normal ones in opposite directions Des
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Old 01 April 2005, 08:44   #5
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Please don't mix stainless steel and steel chain or you will get electrolytic corrosion. Also when you are putting on the shackles there is a way to put them on so they tighten when they nag not loosen, but you should still mouse the shackles.
If you are going to buy a buoy avoid the ones with a metal rod up the centre with an inflatable collar, I have seen the rods break and the collars shred.
If you go with the type where you pass the chain up the center and it had a plate to hold it in place, put a big knot in the chain so if the plate fails the chain won't drop.
I keep my 7.4 on a fore & aft mooring when afloat which has a main load baring line connected to the eye with a quick link and a second safety line
loose over tubes made off to the cleat.
This was on the YBW site and quite of a few of them seem to lay their own.
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showflat.p...0/an/0/page/10

Hope it helpd
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If you are going to use karabiners don't use the alloy climbing ones - not too good in salt water when attached to a steel chain!!!

Steel ones are a lot tougher

http://www.caving-supplies.co.uk/

Most climbing places don't stock steel because it is too heavy.
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Unless I was sitting on the waterside with a sniper rifle, I wouldn't leave my rib out in the middle of the water.
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A word of caution - make sure that your insurance covers you when on a mooring. A local Ribster across here is having a major battle to get his insurers to pay up for damage sustained to his Rib when it broke free from a swinging mooring last year.
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