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Old 01 September 2010, 12:48   #31
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ok, will do.
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Old 09 September 2010, 14:36   #32
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Sorry guys, Im sure you have had enough of me already but basically for 100 this will be my learning and training experience, so if it fails then I havent lost alot if it works out then I have a rib worth not much anyway!! lol

So I thought I would have a look at this leaking seam today. Effectively where is has been left out for years flat its just come unglued, I was able to just peal off by hand the front protection strips, handles, protective strips. Then it came to the patches over the seam again the black cover came off really easy, then the white rubbery strip over that. The seam is just gone. there is a blue (very flimsy) inner strip which is hardly stuck at all.
I also removed two massive lumps of expandable foam.
For any reason (appart from badly attempted repairs) should there ever be expandable foam in the chambers??

I have pulled the seam back to the chamber wall which has also come unstuck.
As I have gone this far, I am actually contemplating completely removing the tubes altogether as they would need re-doing anyway and I think it may be easier for me when it comes to regluing.

On the main seam, is it worth me PVC welding the seam after I have glued the inside seam and before I glue the outside cover?? I have access to the equipment.

Is there a resto section on here?? dont expect a quick job as I am currently restoring a VW beetle which has to take priority right now.



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Old 10 September 2010, 04:28   #33
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There are two ways of looki ng at this:

1) The DHD way

2) You have just bought a half price engine with free boat. Worst case, if the hull is scrap, you can punt the engine and be at worst no worse off.

Solent Ranger has a very valid point, but, at the same time, My hull / engine were semi unknown when I bought mine, and so far not even Mrs 9D has not been out in it. (and just as well, beacuse as you all know, the engine destroyed itself). Only once I am happy it's reliable will I happily take the family out.

As you say, it's a good cheap way to learn. And the more you have to do to it, the better you'll know your boat in the event that something goes the way of the pear when out on the river.
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Old 10 September 2010, 08:59   #34
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You have just bought a half price engine with free boat. Worst case, if the hull is scrap, you can punt the engine and be at worst no worse off.
I think we all suspect that old Gungey is going to spend hours (& s) trying to repair the toobs, before arriving at the conclusion that the whole exercise is unworthwhile. Then he may move onto trying to recoup some of the funds by going down the 'flog the motor' route, at which stage, the old tub will probably eat more of Gungey's cash getting the motor to run & in a saleable condition. After all this, I wonder then whether the total financial 'investment' could be recovered, irrespective of what value he puts on his time.
Hopefully, I'm wrong.
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I totally know where you are coming from and I have always been one of these people who take things appart to see how they work (irrispective as the whether they every go back together and work or not!!)lol.

Hell, it will keep me busy and hopefully I can learning something from it (not by buy knackered old Rhibs!!)

The gluing work does sound like a bit of a job and finding the supopliers of the correct materials locally so that I can pick brains at the same time. I was quite supprised at the internal seam material being so flimsy when all the other seams use a nice thick PVC strip.

Hay ho, I will give it a go. one thing is for sure, I will be posting my victories and failers on here for some time to come!!

Sorry!!

But I am right in thinking there should not be the contents of about 4 tubes of expandable foam in the tubes arent I?
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But I am right in thinking there should not be the contents of about 4 tubes of expandable foam in the tubes arent I?
Yes!
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Starting the realise the extent of the mamouth task ahead of me!! lol

I have now stripped off most of the outer seal protection from the rib and got down to the seal, I still have a few more bits to go before I start de-seaming, but the amount of old glue and bodged seal reapairs is extensive and the MEK (which I thought would get rid of the glue easily doesnt!!) lol.
I found a company that makes MEK so I was able to buy lots of it at a good price. (I think I may end up needing more than the 7.5ltrs I have!! lol.
I am going to try and heat gun some of the really thick glue to soften it before using the MEK next time. I figure if I just do a little at a time over a long period it wont seem so bad!!
I think I will have to remove the tubes from the rib to do a good job repairing it. It is already coming away from the fibreglass hull in some places and holding sludgy water in there, so it would have to be done anyway.
I will keep you updated as I do more.
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I am going to try and heat gun some of the really thick glue to soften it before using the MEK next time. I figure if I just do a little at a time over a long period it wont seem so bad!!
I know you know this - but find a safe way to have a heat gun and MEK on the same job....
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Old 27 September 2010, 08:42   #39
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I know you know this - but find a safe way to have a heat gun and MEK on the same job....
lol, yeah apparently it is a little on the flammable side!! lol

If I never post on here again then you will know the outcome!! lol

I know its a monster of a task but in my eyes, if it works then I have a good solid Rib, if it doesnt then I have a lovely fibreglass garden ornament that I can make a water feature out of!!!
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I know you know this - but find a safe way to have a heat gun and MEK on the same job....
Or, if its insured
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