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Old 05 September 2011, 21:40   #11
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I get people tying off to my lifelines all the time, winds me up.
Me too.
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Old 06 September 2011, 03:35   #12
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The only places I have glued those cleats on is were people sit on the tubes and use them for hand holds on a dive boat.

Perhaps you all need to move to a sort of stealth rib by removing all handles and A frames then only fit hidden pop up cleats.

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Old 06 September 2011, 03:44   #13
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I've never really understood what their purpose was
They are first and foremost a handle, a well known re-tuber wisely suggested to me that a handle shaped handle is better since it can still be used to tidy a line to but is less likely to snag or be used by the unwary.
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Old 06 September 2011, 04:17   #14
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I disagree to some point. It is just a bit of rubber glued to the tube. Granted it's unwise to raft up an 8m rib in a strong tide or rough weather, but how is different to the rubber bow cleat on the front of an SR that we had? That rubber contact area wasnt much bigger but was used to moor off for 10 years in a v tidal and sometimes exposed menai strait. It never even budged.

The one in the pic is a cleat, not a handle, so it can be used as one subject to sense, irrespective of rubber or metal. Tie a small boat off, but nit a yacht for example. There doesnt appear to much force/tension at play here.

Has anyone ever seen a handle etc actually pulled off? If they have I'd be interested to know what particular weight/force removed it.

Whether a 7m boat with 2 ton added could be held or not by 4 handles I think also needs some evidence.

In the example though, I dont see much issue in a marina unless it was v rough
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Poor and unsafe mooring practices are unfortunately fairly commonplace. Here at the Dry Stack our holding pontoons can often contain "rafts" as many as 5 boats deep (mainly Ribs) and some manufacturers are very mean when it comes to providing safe points on which to attach another boat (we have a Revenger 715 that has a "D" ring at the bow and two on the transome and that's it!!!!!).

We do try to educate our customers and have even provided useful tips on pontoon etiquette and safe mooring practices on our website Safe Mooring.

However, we still see plenty of examples of ludicrous attempts to moor a boat - often when people return after a long day on the water (or in the bar).
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Having had an 8.5m Halmatic sitting on my tubes and catching on my handles I can assure you that they're tougher than you might think. I also lost a fender on that particular occasion which was tied to the handle with a rolling hitch. It got pulled off by Martini II in all the commotion but the handle and tube remained unscathed.
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I use mine all the time, mostly to tie fenders to when moored alongside hard boats with rough surfaces that will chew up my tubes and also for towlines that are attached to my bridle ready for towing. I use the cleat to hold the tow line to one side away from the prop when not in use. I do not use them for mooring alongside or allow any one else to tie off on them.
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So no ones ever seen one pulled off?
Therefore what are those that are touchy re others using them basing their fear on?( regarding mooring alongside not towing a big boat etc)
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I've never really understood what their purpose was as everyone "in the know" seems to agree they are not suitable for securing a rib...
No .. not for a mooring or tie up.. but handy as a light eyelet for a stern spring when tieing along side .. but more importantly they are good for pulling your self aboard from the water, because they are usually mounted higher up the tube than a sagging line and for holding & controlling the boat when recovering onto a trailer, or any other manouvres when the boats on the trailer on the hard .. and for crew to hang on ! as everyone else has said I wouldn't have a rib without them
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I've never really understood what their purpose was as everyone "in the know" seems to agree they are not suitable for securing a rib...
Who are those "in the know"?

I suspect you mean traders and builders. If that is the case

a) why do they fit them shaped as cleats, not just handles ?
b) Your statment infers they are privy to knowledge of them being ripped off. In which case, please can someone give an example of the forces required to do so on a newish boat.

Im steering towards the, they're strong enough for most rafting situations but not towing, at the moment. But open minded.
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